7,5 cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

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7,5 cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Dec 2009 11:45

Hi all,

I have some doubts about 7,5c m Geb.G. 36:

I've seen some pictures of this weapon with a small shield. Does anyone know if this shield was a standard equipment?
Or perhaps a field improvisation. :roll:
According to Ian Hogg in "German Artillery of WWII" : "...and (to save weight) no shield was used"

I have also found a picture of this weapon with rare 6-spoke metal wheels. I had seen pictures of this gun with the standard lightweight metal disc wheels and with wood-spoked wheels, but I never seen this type of wheels on this weapon.
Does someone know something? 8O

Images from Ebay
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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by jopaerya » 05 Dec 2009 13:30

Hello Sturm78

I have no info on the shield , but there are more photo's with the 6-spoke wheels .

(1) Infantery , Mouintain and Airborne guns page 27
(2) Museum in Sarajewo

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by s.pak » 05 Dec 2009 14:02

hello Sturm,
the only time ihave seen this little shield on 7.5cm Geb.G.36, this is on gun in kreta.

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 05 Dec 2009 20:49

The shields are on guns in pictured of guns being towed by Kettenkrad and while the caotions say Crete I have always felt that they are in fact on an exercise post Crete. If you look at all of the pics most vehicles are festooned with Lifejackets which isn't something that troops in action tend to carry around with them after landing.
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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by Sturm78 » 06 Dec 2009 11:30

Thanks to all for your answers.

It appears that the shield was used in only a few guns in Crete. But, Does anyone know if it was a improvisation of campaign or a factory modification?

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by jopaerya » 08 Dec 2009 20:36

Here a other picture from the gun with the gunshield from Ebay ( tropical helmet )

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by Manuferey » 11 Dec 2009 01:57

Another picture with the shield from ebay:

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by jopaerya » 11 Dec 2009 19:08

Hello

A other option could be that the gun with shield was used by the Fallschirmjäger division ??

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by peeved » 12 Dec 2009 12:22

From Waffen-Revue Nr. 92, a German ordnance photo of the
intended version with shield.
Projected use by airborne troops would've made sense since the extra weight of the shield and its supports likely would've necessitated a ninth pack animal in Gebirgsartillerie use while the Kettenkrad was a normal FJ towing vehicle for the 36. Maybe the six-spokers were an attempt to bring the number of packages back to eight by lightening the wheels and shuffling package contents.

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by Sturm78 » 13 Dec 2009 17:56

Thanks to all for your answers and images.

Yes, Jopaerya. An option is that the guns with shields were used exclusively by German paratroopers, to be towed by halftracked motorcycles SdKfz 2 Kettenkrad. The small increase in weight of the shield and its supports would not be a disadvantage by providing motorized traction. (I do not think the weight increase was larger than 50kg)

Respecting the utilization of six-spoke wheels, I guess it would be an attempt to lighten the standard version without shield.

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by peeved » 13 Dec 2009 20:49

LW types, Kettenkrad & shielded (elevation slide removed) Geb.G. 36 (Source Die Halbketten-Fahrzeuge des Deutschen Heeres 1909-1945 by Spielberger, Walter J.)

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Jan 2010 12:39

Hi all,

I found this interesting image on Ebay. This is the only image that I have seen of this gun with sleds instead of wheels.

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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Mar 2010 20:10

Hi all,

I found on Ebay this small image showing a 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36 with the 6-spoke wheels


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Re: 7.5cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by Manuferey » 20 Mar 2010 20:36

Another 6-spoke wheel gun (from ebay.de):

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Re: 7,5 cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Mar 2010 19:48

Thank you very much for your image, Emmanuel :D

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