4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by ain92 » 31 Jul 2013 18:28

Larry Hayward wrote:Thank you ain92

To understand you am I right in thinking that the 45mm AT guns with short barrels were not fitted with solid wheels when they were made in the factory - so these guns in the photos I posted are conversions by Soldiers in the field or by the museum as they could not get spoked wheels?
Hello again, Larry. Sorry for not answering for a long time.
Personally I think that wheels with five holes are field conversions, but the one photographed by V. V. Kuzmin can be a transitional model between 53K and M-42. I asked Yu. I. Pasholok, a historical researcher who is working in the museum the latter one is exhibited. He said that the wheels are original and he will try to look for some additional information about this wheels, but he still has sent my nothing else.
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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Dec 2013 12:03

Hi all,

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Jan 2014 11:34

Hi all,

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Jan 2014 11:50

Hi all,

45mm M1937 AT guns captured:

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 07 Feb 2014 14:15

Hi all,

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Manuferey » 20 Apr 2014 21:03

ain92 wrote:Hello again, Larry. Sorry for not answering for a long time.
Personally I think that wheels with five holes are field conversions, but the one photographed by V. V. Kuzmin can be a transitional model between 53K and M-42. I asked Yu. I. Pasholok, a historical researcher who is working in the museum the latter one is exhibited. He said that the wheels are original and he will try to look for some additional information about this wheels, but he still has sent my nothing else.
Two pictures from ebay.de of the gun with the five-hole solid wheels, possibly re-used here by the Germans.

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And another picture in the winter (German or Red Army soldiers?)

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Source: http://wio.ru/galgrnd/at45mm.htm

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 04 Aug 2014 23:14

Hi all,

I am not sure if the soldiers are German or not :?

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Larry Hayward » 14 Oct 2014 23:49

This 45mm AT gun dates from the Spanish Civil War so presumably is an early version.
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4.5 cm Pak 184(r): How many in German Service?

Post by GoldenState » 15 Oct 2014 05:31

One would think the Germans must have been swimming in captured Russian Paks by December 1941. Anyone have an idea how many were captured?

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 25 Mar 2015 12:22

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by jopaerya » 28 Oct 2015 20:35

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Manuferey » 20 Dec 2015 15:23

A 4.5 cm Pak 184(r) gun used by the French Army (here with British uniforms) against its former German owners in the St-Nazaire Pocket in late 1944- early 45:

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Dec 2015 16:55

What a mess !! 8O 8O :D

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Re: 4.5 cm Pak 184(r)

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Dec 2015 16:04

Hi all,

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