Pillau 1944
Pillau 1944
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Are there any bunkers left , pre-war or wartime bunkers at Pillau in the M.K.B. Seeplantage with 3 x 15 cm Tbts.K.C/36 and M.K.B. Neutief with 4 x 15 cm S.K.C/28 . I know that the area under Russian control but who knows more and has visit these places ??
Regards Jos
Are there any bunkers left , pre-war or wartime bunkers at Pillau in the M.K.B. Seeplantage with 3 x 15 cm Tbts.K.C/36 and M.K.B. Neutief with 4 x 15 cm S.K.C/28 . I know that the area under Russian control but who knows more and has visit these places ??
Regards Jos
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Re: Pillau 1944
Hello,
good question Jos.
Only traces which I/We have are: list of batteries, googlemaps and old maps.
According to old maps-when You take closer look at sea cost line there are visible fenced areas looking like sea cost batteries. My guess is that they are places where those guns were installed.
http://amzpbig.com/maps/1385_Pillau_1936.jpg
Brgds
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good question Jos.
Only traces which I/We have are: list of batteries, googlemaps and old maps.
According to old maps-when You take closer look at sea cost line there are visible fenced areas looking like sea cost batteries. My guess is that they are places where those guns were installed.
http://amzpbig.com/maps/1385_Pillau_1936.jpg
Brgds
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Hi @ndrew
Yes that must be the place , can't find much on Google -Earth on the place .
Regards Jos
Yes that must be the place , can't find much on Google -Earth on the place .
Regards Jos
Re: Pillau 1944
Hello
This looks like a German concrete bunker although I don't know if it is W.W. 1 or later build .
Photo's = http://forum.kenig.org/index.php
Regards Jos
This looks like a German concrete bunker although I don't know if it is W.W. 1 or later build .
Photo's = http://forum.kenig.org/index.php
Regards Jos
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Re: Pillau 1944
I'll ask some friends from there. I remember seeing a sort of Leitstand and open emplacements.
Unfortunately I didn't have the time to visit Baltiysk (former Pillau) when I was in Kaliningrad.
There's a deserted airbase too with huge hangars, really impressive.
edit: found some:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29484859@N07/3239244117/
And check here for photos
http://www.panoramio.com/map/#lt=54.636 ... &a=1&tab=1
Unfortunately I didn't have the time to visit Baltiysk (former Pillau) when I was in Kaliningrad.
There's a deserted airbase too with huge hangars, really impressive.
edit: found some:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29484859@N07/3239244117/
And check here for photos
http://www.panoramio.com/map/#lt=54.636 ... &a=1&tab=1
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Thanks Arthur
The airfield look to me a airfield for seeplanes with very impressive hangars .
Most of the bettungen I have seen on picture's looks to be Marine Flak one's .
Regards Jos
The airfield look to me a airfield for seeplanes with very impressive hangars .
Most of the bettungen I have seen on picture's looks to be Marine Flak one's .
Regards Jos
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Re: Pillau 1944
Hello,
google highlight this area as German coastal battery WWII
google highlight this area as German coastal battery WWII
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there are at least 2 MFlB with 4x105 guns
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Re: Pillau 1944
..pretty good condition.
worth of note is 'Memel-style' of finishing surface of concrete.
Brgds
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worth of note is 'Memel-style' of finishing surface of concrete.
Brgds
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Re: Pillau 1944
Hello Freyfox,
very interesting drawing! My first impression is that it could be for light Flak(?) - please see the drawing.
However Pillau was Kriegsmarine base and Flak-Ringstand L13 doesn't look good...Mayby one of Fla-serie bunkers: Freistehender Einheitsstand fur leichte Flak
Can You post any floor plan? This would help a lot.
Where is it: near cost line or in the port or near 4x10,5cm Flak battery which seems to be correct?
Brgds
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very interesting drawing! My first impression is that it could be for light Flak(?) - please see the drawing.
However Pillau was Kriegsmarine base and Flak-Ringstand L13 doesn't look good...Mayby one of Fla-serie bunkers: Freistehender Einheitsstand fur leichte Flak
Can You post any floor plan? This would help a lot.
Where is it: near cost line or in the port or near 4x10,5cm Flak battery which seems to be correct?
Brgds
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Hello All
I have a drawing of a early design , it's not the same but it looks like this one .
Regards Jos
I have a drawing of a early design , it's not the same but it looks like this one .
Regards Jos
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This is the problem. Unknown. Come across some charts and maps, but they can not bind. Photos are almost nonexistent.Can You post any floor plan? This would help a lot.
Where is it: near cost line or in the port or near 4x10,5cm Flak battery which seems to be correct?
The approximate scheme of coastal batteries
Presumably anti-aircraft battery Lehmberg
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Re: Pillau 1944
Looks like an emplacement similar to the Fla 14 with the armoured turret for 10.5cm SKC/32 placed upon a shelter.