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Pillau 1944

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Post by jopaerya » 23 Mar 2010, 21:15

Hello

Are there any bunkers left , pre-war or wartime bunkers at Pillau in the M.K.B. Seeplantage with 3 x 15 cm Tbts.K.C/36 and M.K.B. Neutief with 4 x 15 cm S.K.C/28 . I know that the area under Russian control but who knows more and has visit these places ??

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Re: Pillau 1944

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 23 Mar 2010, 22:35

Hello,
good question Jos.
Only traces which I/We have are: list of batteries, googlemaps and old maps.
According to old maps-when You take closer look at sea cost line there are visible fenced areas looking like sea cost batteries. My guess is that they are places where those guns were installed.
http://amzpbig.com/maps/1385_Pillau_1936.jpg

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Post by jopaerya » 23 Mar 2010, 23:07

Hi @ndrew

Yes that must be the place , can't find much on Google -Earth on the place .

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Re: Pillau 1944

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Post by jopaerya » 25 Mar 2010, 09:39

Hello

This looks like a German concrete bunker although I don't know if it is W.W. 1 or later build .

Photo's = http://forum.kenig.org/index.php

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Re: Pillau 1944

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Post by AvB » 25 Mar 2010, 11:46

I'll ask some friends from there. I remember seeing a sort of Leitstand and open emplacements.
Unfortunately I didn't have the time to visit Baltiysk (former Pillau) when I was in Kaliningrad.
There's a deserted airbase too with huge hangars, really impressive.

edit: found some:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29484859@N07/3239244117/

And check here for photos
http://www.panoramio.com/map/#lt=54.636 ... &a=1&tab=1

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Re: Pillau 1944

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Post by jopaerya » 25 Mar 2010, 12:07

Thanks Arthur

The airfield look to me a airfield for seeplanes with very impressive hangars .
Most of the bettungen I have seen on picture's looks to be Marine Flak one's .

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Re: Pillau 1944

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Post by jopaerya » 25 Mar 2010, 17:50

Hello

The bunker is still there http://wikimapia.org/10061287/German-naval-bunkers-WW2

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 26 Mar 2010, 10:04

Hello,
google highlight this area as German coastal battery WWII
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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 26 Mar 2010, 10:14

there are at least 2 MFlB with 4x105 guns
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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 26 Mar 2010, 10:18

..pretty good condition.
worth of note is 'Memel-style' of finishing surface of concrete.

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Re: Pillau 1944

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Post by FreyFox » 15 May 2010, 06:03

Strengthened the position of the gun, the district Pillau.
Can you identify this structure?

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 15 May 2010, 14:15

Hello Freyfox,

very interesting drawing! My first impression is that it could be for light Flak(?) - please see the drawing.
However Pillau was Kriegsmarine base and Flak-Ringstand L13 doesn't look good...Mayby one of Fla-serie bunkers: Freistehender Einheitsstand fur leichte Flak
Can You post any floor plan? This would help a lot.
Where is it: near cost line or in the port or near 4x10,5cm Flak battery which seems to be correct?

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Re: Pillau 1944

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Post by jopaerya » 15 May 2010, 18:50

Hello All

I have a drawing of a early design , it's not the same but it looks like this one .

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Post by FreyFox » 16 May 2010, 14:19

Can You post any floor plan? This would help a lot.
Where is it: near cost line or in the port or near 4x10,5cm Flak battery which seems to be correct?
This is the problem. Unknown. Come across some charts and maps, but they can not bind. Photos are almost nonexistent.


The approximate scheme of coastal batteries
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Presumably anti-aircraft battery Lehmberg
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Post by AvB » 16 May 2010, 18:54

Looks like an emplacement similar to the Fla 14 with the armoured turret for 10.5cm SKC/32 placed upon a shelter.

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