Opening in front of Fl. 242

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Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by Jens Andersen » 24 Mar 2010 12:42

Hi

Can anyone in here explain the opening in the fron of the Fl. 242? - See attached photos.

The room behind it measures 140 x 66 cm.

It seems to small for observation and weapons - and it doesn't seem very useful as an embrasure as it is shaped as a funnel.

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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by RuPo » 24 Mar 2010 13:13

i thought for near defence. but this hole isn't very big.
drawing on: http://www.fortendenhelder.nl/Bunkers/Fl242.htm
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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by jopaerya » 25 Mar 2010 10:34

Hello

I also thought it was for close defence , but the photo's from Jens makes me wonder .
I have only a very bad drawing of the Fl 242 , looks that it says ( .....winkel .... )

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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by AvB » 25 Mar 2010 10:43

Most of the Fl 242s I know have this tiny tiny hole. Seems useless indeed..

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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by Jens Andersen » 25 Mar 2010 11:19

Hi

I hoped that somebody had a official drawing with a few words on it for explanation.

So, I guess I'll have to accept that it is for shooting through, although it is so small that it can't be very useful. Also, the "embrasures" isn't anything like an ordinary, German embrasure.

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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by Bo2 » 25 Mar 2010 11:46

Bonjour
if this can help
Image

and this
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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by TUS » 25 Mar 2010 13:29

Hi Jens

Interesting discussion! I have always believed that it was mainly for observation purpose… Just visited Fanø where all the FL242 have been build on high ground, with excellent view of the local area. The opening is slightly larger than the one you posted from Hanstholm. The smallest one have almost the same dimensions as the opening of a 48P8 (9x12cm) so I guess that it could have been used as embrasure. But then again why not just install the 48P8 like in the FL243/249 if the main objective was “local defence”?

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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by Dan Mouritzsen » 25 Mar 2010 14:33

Hi

I think that i have heard that it was for Lichtsprech?


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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by stril » 25 Mar 2010 15:37

Hello
Im not sure what it is for, but observation/defence has been mentioned. Lichtsprech ? Wouldnt know.
Just to show the setup of 4 X Fl 242 at MKB Fjell. Two with the opening facing the entrance to the battery in the south, and two facing the rear in the north.
Still im thinking of observation/defence in case of use against ground targets.
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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by TH » 25 Mar 2010 19:45

Dan Mouritzsen wrote:Hi
I think that i have heard that it was for Lichtsprech?

Dan


Could work but I doubt that, since the opening is always facing the enemy side.

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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by Bo2 » 26 Mar 2010 06:01

Bonjour
stril wrote:Still im thinking of observation/defence in case of use against ground targets.

I think same thing but it's a very small hole to put "jumelles" for observation with very small angle open
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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by stril » 26 Mar 2010 13:13

Helllo
Noticed some letters on the drawings posted by BO
The letters BU remind me of a drawing i found some years ago of a small building buildt in connection with KM flabatteries in Bergen in 1943. The small building was called a BU-Nische(B.Ü ?) Only half of it was visible over ground level, and had the same sideview as teh drawing of the room in the FL242.
Perhaps that small building had a similar purpose. Have problems finding the drawing now, perhaps Jos have it ? :-)
Question is, what is a B.U-Nische. TT on same drawing from Bo ? Tischtafel ?
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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by RuPo » 26 Mar 2010 18:06

on mine drawing (as bad as the drawig of Jos) i can read by the hole 'SE?WINKEL ?E?'.
so it looks that the angle of the 'roof' on he funnel was important.
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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by der bunkermann » 26 Mar 2010 18:35

just an idea beobachtung unterschlupf?
oh, and the TT is the front view of a shelf(?) (plank)
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Re: Opening in front of Fl. 242

Post by jopaerya » 26 Mar 2010 20:31

Hello Friends

Did my best but I can't find anything on the B.U. , but I keep on searching .

Regards Jos

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