21 cm Mörser 18

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by reinaart » 28 May 2012 14:49

Looks like these guns at De Haan/Wenduine were 17cm Mörser K18 or am I mistaken:

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I wonder if they belonged to Heeres Küsten Artillerie Regiment 1240, according to most sources this unit was only equipped with former French 15.5 cm guns (K.418(f)).

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by jopaerya » 28 May 2012 15:58

Hello Arjan

Please look here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=189252

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by reinaart » 28 May 2012 16:20

Thanks Jos, this explains a lot. I had already wondered why I couldn't trace any of the coastal features seen in the pics in the region of De Haan/Wenduine :) . Usually the seller is quite accurate about units and locations....

Groet,

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by Sturm78 » 28 May 2012 18:44

Grzesio wrote
The carriage was supported by two baseplates, as you already noticed - the main, circular baseplate, on which it was rested by means of a pivot and the rear rectangular baseplate with the traversing gear. The whole carriage was simply rotating on the main baseplate, adjusted by the traversing gear in the 16 degrees range.
When direction of fire had to be radically changed, the rear baseplate was raised from the ground and the whole gun could be freely traversed by hand in any direction (360 deg. range), supported by two rollers riding at the edge of the main baseplate. Then the rear baseplate was lowered and the gun was anchored again in the new direction.


Thank for your help, Grzesio
Therefore, while the gun was rotated, only remained standing on his front circular baseplate, If I have understood correctly.

According to my information, the 21cm Mrs 18 had a traverse of 16° on his wheels. Therefore, any rotation over 16 degrees would require lifting the rear support platform.

However this process seems to have been different in the weapons installed in coastal defense position, as it appears in my last two pictures, in which appears a circular rail and a kind of traverse mechanism in his rear part.

Any idea about this ?? :? Standard equipment for coastal guns or improvised?

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by jopaerya » 28 May 2012 20:02

Hi Sturm78 and Grzesio

Most of the 21 cm Mörser 18 batterie's at the Channel Islands had wheels
that could traverse in the bettung and there was also a outer steel ring .
The same kind as you can see in this Topic .
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=126843
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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by Grzesio » 28 May 2012 21:05

Sturm78 wrote: Therefore, while the gun was rotated, only remained standing on his front circular baseplate, If I have understood correctly.
According to my information, the 21cm Mrs 18 had a traverse of 16° on his wheels. Therefore, any rotation over 16 degrees would require lifting the rear support platform.
Yes, exactly.
I wonder, how long it was taking to change direction this way. Lifting the plate and turning the whole gun, then re-anchoring it...?

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Jul 2012 11:14

Hi all,

This howitzer seems to have been successfully used for all types of tasks: tank killer, coastal gun, .... 8O

Image from Ebay
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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by Sturm78 » 31 Jul 2012 18:15

Hi all,

Some images from Ebay:

Part 1

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by Sturm78 » 31 Jul 2012 18:18

....Part 2:

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Aug 2013 15:34

Hi all,

Wartime image from EBay. Rare is the text in Portuguese. :?

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by Sturm78 » 19 Aug 2013 15:03

Hi all,

I found this image on EBay, showing various 21cm Mrs 18 German howitzers captured by Russians.
I guess this image could is dated in winter 1944-45 or 1945-46, as some of these howitzers have wheels with round holes, and I think only late Mrs 18 howitzers had these wheels.
Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Feb 2014 12:03

Hi all,

Another image of an 21cm Mrs 18 howitzer with these wheels with round holes.
I think this is a characteristic of late production howitzers but I am not sure. Can somebody confirm this?

Does anyone a better image of one of a 21cm Mrs 18 howitzer with these wheels?

Image from EBay
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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by Sturm78 » 11 May 2014 17:28

Nobody for my last questions ?? :(

Well, here another image from EBay. I am not sure if 21cm Mrs 18 or 17cm K18 barrel trailer :?

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by tigre » 14 Jun 2014 05:30

Hello to all :D ; something more..................

The 21 cm Mörser 18 in action in Poland 1939.

Sources: http://odkrywca.pl/wrzesien-1939-zdjeci ... 45450.html
http://odkrywca.pl/wrzesien-1939-zdjeci ... 50461.html

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Re: 21cm Mörser 18

Post by schwarzermai » 14 Jun 2014 06:36

hello Raul

in Poland were no 21cm Mrs.18 in action - no units already had this weapon at this time...

above is a photo from 1941 - it's 3./s.Art.Abt.(mot.) 680 and shows 15cm K.18

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