613 found in the Sudwall
613 found in the Sudwall
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In W.N. 025 in Stp.Gr. Port de Bouc a 613 is (re)found , the bunker was used by the Art.Reg. II./338 .
Photo's = Titou2201
Regards Jos
In W.N. 025 in Stp.Gr. Port de Bouc a 613 is (re)found , the bunker was used by the Art.Reg. II./338 .
Photo's = Titou2201
Regards Jos
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Re: 613 found in the Sudwall
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Re: 613 found in the Sudwall
Wow! Südwall is still full of surprises.. It looks recently unearthed?
Strange floor inside. Looks like a the lighter 462P01.
Strange floor inside. Looks like a the lighter 462P01.
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Hi,
The interior doesn;t look really German, although the floor could be adapted ofcourse...
Makes me think of the 1-Schartentuerme...
Could it be a Tschjech turret..... I wonder...
The steel and shape also smells strange...
Peter
The interior doesn;t look really German, although the floor could be adapted ofcourse...
Makes me think of the 1-Schartentuerme...
Could it be a Tschjech turret..... I wonder...
The steel and shape also smells strange...
Peter
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please check Chazette's green book and an aeriel picture of the bunker...
my bet is on a Tscjech one...
my bet is on a Tscjech one...
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What strike me is the extra amount of concrete was placed in front of the bunker in front of the turret ,
outside the squire 613 form , this would indicate that this turret was larger then the standaard one ??
Regards Jos
What strike me is the extra amount of concrete was placed in front of the bunker in front of the turret ,
outside the squire 613 form , this would indicate that this turret was larger then the standaard one ??
Regards Jos
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indeed... normally a 463 is around 1,25m
the Tjech one is about 1,50m, so it's possible the wall was strengthened...
the Tjech one is about 1,50m, so it's possible the wall was strengthened...
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Hello
Here a drawing from a Czech turret with the same inside as on the photo 019 .
please note the same " Einstiegsegment "
Regards Jos
Here a drawing from a Czech turret with the same inside as on the photo 019 .
please note the same " Einstiegsegment "
Regards Jos
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Nice !
From what turret is this drawing..
The turret should be in the range 780P4-784P4.
From what turret is this drawing..
The turret should be in the range 780P4-784P4.
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HI Peter
I have no Idea , the drawing is from the Czech Denkschift , the drawing is from a part that is about 1,2,3 and 4
M.G. turrets . The only way could that some one could make picture from the inside of the turret to see if there
are any Czech M.g. openings .
Regards Jos
I have no Idea , the drawing is from the Czech Denkschift , the drawing is from a part that is about 1,2,3 and 4
M.G. turrets . The only way could that some one could make picture from the inside of the turret to see if there
are any Czech M.g. openings .
Regards Jos
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indeed, that's the only way to see if the're openings there and if they're for observation
or MG...
interesting !
or MG...
interesting !
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The outside fooled me on this one, the opening for the periscope doesn't look 462P01ish too.
This would be a unique one.. Chazette posted a plan with the different Einbauarten.
Interesting to see T 300 (mm) and T 200 too!
This would be a unique one.. Chazette posted a plan with the different Einbauarten.
Interesting to see T 300 (mm) and T 200 too!
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Hi Arthur
On this original drawing ( from Alain ) the small room for the 2 extra antenna niches is missing .
Regards Jos
On this original drawing ( from Alain ) the small room for the 2 extra antenna niches is missing .
Regards Jos
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that it is integrated in this bunker is most likely the reason for the extended nose on the bunker!
Re: 613 found in the Sudwall
Hello
Here a drawing from Dirk Peeters from the Czech turret .
Regards Jos
Here a drawing from Dirk Peeters from the Czech turret .
Regards Jos
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