Bauformen
- dirk Peeters
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Re: Bauformen
Wauw if that man would co operate here it would be of a great value
Wenn i ask if his plans were good its not for offending him simply a question l
we all know the french SHM and the belgian army plans are not that good with the drawnings....
He can explain things on the eastern front for the Tobruks Maybe we can ask him pictures?
I m think i ll now that plan Tobruk in rocks
I ve have it somewhere...
Gonna search
Wenn i ask if his plans were good its not for offending him simply a question l
we all know the french SHM and the belgian army plans are not that good with the drawnings....
He can explain things on the eastern front for the Tobruks Maybe we can ask him pictures?
I m think i ll now that plan Tobruk in rocks
I ve have it somewhere...
Gonna search
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Re: Bauformen
As far as I know this men is retired according to bunker hobby.dirk Peeters wrote:Wauw if that man would co operate here it would be of a great value
Wenn i ask if his plans were good its not for offending him simply a question l
we all know the french SHM and the belgian army plans are not that good with the drawnings....
He can explain things on the eastern front for the Tobruks Maybe we can ask him pictures?
I m think i ll now that plan Tobruk in rocks
I ve have it somewhere...
Gonna search
But he still has knowledge and references.
I'll see what can be done with him.
Brgds
@ndrew
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Re: Bauformen
Dirk
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Re: Bauformen
Not exactly: I thought about Tobruk built in rocks.dirk Peeters wrote:Is it this you want ?
Dirk
But this is OK too! It's good to see it in construction details.
Brgds
@ndrew
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Re: Bauformen
we ll search but i have a lot ... and that doc isn t classified ... i ll know another werhe yoy can see a Tobruk but can t find it
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Re: Bauformen
For Bunkerman
Wijk aan zee it has the same Tobruk you have found for me also type Bf 58c
Wijk aan zee it has the same Tobruk you have found for me also type Bf 58c
Re: Bauformen
I start loosing connection here but, looks like this is also a 58C this time with "Bettgestel"
If I am in the wrong topic please feel free to move it...
Mind you there is a dimension problem but I forgot where.
If I am in the wrong topic please feel free to move it...
Mind you there is a dimension problem but I forgot where.
Thanks,
Wim
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3D : http://www.petromax.nl/Hanstholm.html
http://www.petromax.nl/DeBeer.html
Wim
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3D : http://www.petromax.nl/Hanstholm.html
http://www.petromax.nl/DeBeer.html
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Re: Bauformen
Yes a genuine Bf 58c with great room
There are two versions but lest cool it down a bit not all at the same time
W e will work it all out
There are two versions but lest cool it down a bit not all at the same time
W e will work it all out
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Re: Bauformen
Yes a genuine Bf 58c with great room
There are two versions but lest cool it down a bit not all at the same time
W e will work it all out
There are two versions but lest cool it down a bit not all at the same time
W e will work it all out
Re: Bauformen
Sounds good but you may take a look at this forum too. I came across it by accident (as far that is possible)dirk Peeters wrote:Yes a genuine Bf 58c with great room
There are two versions but lest cool it down a bit not all at the same time
W e will work it all out
Thanks,
Wim
www.petromax.nl
3D : http://www.petromax.nl/Hanstholm.html
http://www.petromax.nl/DeBeer.html
Wim
www.petromax.nl
3D : http://www.petromax.nl/Hanstholm.html
http://www.petromax.nl/DeBeer.html
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Re: Bauformen
For Andrew
i ll think they re used here an old drawning because the "felsimbau" is not mentioned
Can our norvegian friens shed any light? Is this sort of Tobruk constructed in Norway ?
In France it is extremely rare
here i found a Tobruk 58d with a drawning for construction in rocksy bottomi ll think they re used here an old drawning because the "felsimbau" is not mentioned
Can our norvegian friens shed any light? Is this sort of Tobruk constructed in Norway ?
In France it is extremely rare
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Re: Bauformen
For Andrew
H e ll know my archive better than me .....
Is it this you are looking for ?
Anybody know where these are constructed ? i ll think not easy to see if it can be seen at all...
PS this is a Bf 58c
Finally i have found it but with the help of JosH e ll know my archive better than me .....
Is it this you are looking for ?
Anybody know where these are constructed ? i ll think not easy to see if it can be seen at all...
PS this is a Bf 58c
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Re: Bauformen
looks that its made for Norway
Does any of you know more documents for these Tobruks there ?
Does any of you know more documents for these Tobruks there ?
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Re: Bauformen
Hello Dirk,dirk Peeters wrote:For AndrewFinally i have found it but with the help of Jos
H e ll know my archive better than me .....
Is it this you are looking for ?
Anybody know where these are constructed ? i ll think not easy to see if it can be seen at all...
PS this is a Bf 58c
Yes it's what I've been looking for - Thanks a lot!
Very interesting drawings with details 'how to built'
Brgds
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Re: Bauformen
Here you go Dirkdirk Peeters wrote:Can you give me a photograph of the door please and teh place were it is found?
We are sure that the entrance on the side or in the back also won t change the type....
Dirk
This special one is located app 1 km south of Nymindegab. The entrance is placed "low" and another detail is the access to the Tobruk is placed in the centre of the 200cm x 200cm crew room.
I just think these small variations are done as a result of strategically conclusions varying from site to site, location to location and from Pionier to Pionier.
So in my world still a 58c...
I have always defined the early VF8 to be recognisable by its high entrance and only 1 step to the Tobruk. Or am I way off?
And Thanks Andrzej@ndrew wrote: Thanks-I like this 'primitive' overview
Brgds Tønnes