Gun bunkers in granite
Gun bunkers in granite
Hello
At some places of the Atlantikwall there made use of granite tunnels and only small amounts of concrete
to constucted a bunker , typical examples are , Fort du Roule , Fort de Aleth , Pointe du Grouin and at Biarritz .
I am looking for these kind of bunkers that were build solitairy just like the one in the sector Mo ( Bretagne )
and Brest , does somebody know more of these typical bunkers . They could only build in sectors were solid
granite was available .
Regards Jos
At some places of the Atlantikwall there made use of granite tunnels and only small amounts of concrete
to constucted a bunker , typical examples are , Fort du Roule , Fort de Aleth , Pointe du Grouin and at Biarritz .
I am looking for these kind of bunkers that were build solitairy just like the one in the sector Mo ( Bretagne )
and Brest , does somebody know more of these typical bunkers . They could only build in sectors were solid
granite was available .
Regards Jos
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Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Two in Jersey
http://bunkersite.com/locations/ci/jersey/670-cath.html
http://bunkersite.com/locations/ci/jers ... etacq.html
Not quite the same but lovely anyway!
http://bunkersite.com/locations/ci/jers ... orb-1.html
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John
http://bunkersite.com/locations/ci/jersey/670-cath.html
http://bunkersite.com/locations/ci/jers ... etacq.html
Not quite the same but lovely anyway!
http://bunkersite.com/locations/ci/jers ... orb-1.html
Another plug for AvB!
John
Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Thanks John
Here a other one from the KVA Morlaix .
Photo= Dirk Peeters
Regards Jos
Here a other one from the KVA Morlaix .
Photo= Dirk Peeters
Regards Jos
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Re: Gun bunkers in granite
More pictures
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Re: Gun bunkers in granite
More Varnes Fyr, on Lista.
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Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Hi Jos, hi all!
you have here some photos from Ba51 Pointe Sainte-Barbe -Saint-Jean-de-Luz, France-, and here the rock is not granite (in fact it's flysch -a courious sedimentary geological formation...-), so it seems that granite was suitable but not necessary.
Regards
Alex
Photo SHM from the book "Atlantikwall mythe ou réalité" (A. Chazette ...)
you have here some photos from Ba51 Pointe Sainte-Barbe -Saint-Jean-de-Luz, France-, and here the rock is not granite (in fact it's flysch -a courious sedimentary geological formation...-), so it seems that granite was suitable but not necessary.
Regards
Alex
Photo SHM from the book "Atlantikwall mythe ou réalité" (A. Chazette ...)
Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Thanks Arthur and Alex
Great picture's , of these sort of bunkers . Here a other one's from Ba 41 ( Miramar ) .
Regards Jos
Great picture's , of these sort of bunkers . Here a other one's from Ba 41 ( Miramar ) .
Regards Jos
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Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Here another one in Ba 34.
Regards fortrees44
Regards fortrees44
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Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Hello all,
I knew this tipe of subterranean construction as "Kaverne" (Cavern), but in Alain Chazette's book :"Armements et & Ouvrages de forteresse -Mur de l'Atlantique- Volume 2" they appear named as "Stollen" (Tunnel).
In the Bayonne area (Ba) there are four Stp. of this type of building: Ba 34 -Pointe Saint Martin, Biarritz-; Ba 40 and Ba 39 -Atalaye, Biarritz-; Ba 41 -Miramar, Biarritz-; Ba 51 -Pointe Sainte Barbe, Saint Jean de Luz- and in Ba 60 -Pointe Sainte Anne, Hendaye- germans began drilling the tunnels but their construction remained unfinished.
Regards,
Alex
I knew this tipe of subterranean construction as "Kaverne" (Cavern), but in Alain Chazette's book :"Armements et & Ouvrages de forteresse -Mur de l'Atlantique- Volume 2" they appear named as "Stollen" (Tunnel).
In the Bayonne area (Ba) there are four Stp. of this type of building: Ba 34 -Pointe Saint Martin, Biarritz-; Ba 40 and Ba 39 -Atalaye, Biarritz-; Ba 41 -Miramar, Biarritz-; Ba 51 -Pointe Sainte Barbe, Saint Jean de Luz- and in Ba 60 -Pointe Sainte Anne, Hendaye- germans began drilling the tunnels but their construction remained unfinished.
Regards,
Alex
Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Hello Jos and others,
allready in 1939 there was a order given by the OKH about the replacement of concrete by rock. In this paper dated 31.05.1939 there are detailed explanations how much to reduce the outer walls of bunkers in strenght A and B. Even if this paper was ment to be used by the Festungspioniere building the Westwall it was also the basement for other regulations given later on during the war. The dimensions are in short terms:
A buildings outer walls may be reduced to 2 m and B buildings outer walls may be reduced to 1 m. This reductions may not start before a strength of rock of 1,5 m deepness. The foundation may be reduced to 30 cm.
Please find attached some other examples of bunkers build into the rock.
Regards
Daniel
allready in 1939 there was a order given by the OKH about the replacement of concrete by rock. In this paper dated 31.05.1939 there are detailed explanations how much to reduce the outer walls of bunkers in strenght A and B. Even if this paper was ment to be used by the Festungspioniere building the Westwall it was also the basement for other regulations given later on during the war. The dimensions are in short terms:
A buildings outer walls may be reduced to 2 m and B buildings outer walls may be reduced to 1 m. This reductions may not start before a strength of rock of 1,5 m deepness. The foundation may be reduced to 30 cm.
Please find attached some other examples of bunkers build into the rock.
Regards
Daniel
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Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Arthur,
did you investigate the bunkers on the North headland of Fécamp Harbour?
Or anyone else, know whether they are "tunnelled"?
Saw them there yesterday but only passing through: three or four above each other, possibly a couple of PakK 4.7s?
John
did you investigate the bunkers on the North headland of Fécamp Harbour?
Or anyone else, know whether they are "tunnelled"?
Saw them there yesterday but only passing through: three or four above each other, possibly a couple of PakK 4.7s?
John
Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Hello,
among various buildings, the north Cliffs of Fécamp "côte de la Vierge", called Fe09 by the Germans, got 1x 676, 1x 630 and 1x 612.
RV
among various buildings, the north Cliffs of Fécamp "côte de la Vierge", called Fe09 by the Germans, got 1x 676, 1x 630 and 1x 612.
RV
Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Hello
Here a other nice example of a H.K.B. ( 4 x 12.2 cm K 390 (r) ) at La Rove ( Sudwall )
Photo = Sudwall Forum
Regards Jos
Here a other nice example of a H.K.B. ( 4 x 12.2 cm K 390 (r) ) at La Rove ( Sudwall )
Photo = Sudwall Forum
Regards Jos
Re: Gun bunkers in granite
Hello Jos,
HKB La Rove is really a nice one. Did you charter a small aircraft to take this aerial shot? We entered this battery in 2005 old-fashioned by feet
http://www.atlantikwall-research-norway ... r-AR-15189
Regards Daniel
HKB La Rove is really a nice one. Did you charter a small aircraft to take this aerial shot? We entered this battery in 2005 old-fashioned by feet
http://www.atlantikwall-research-norway ... r-AR-15189
Regards Daniel
Re: Gun bunkers in granite
hello,
is missing! stollen to 669 wn MO07 louanec !!!
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a small gift for jos, I do not think a person is the picture of the tip 612 of the castle was inside. I managed entry ay!
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PS:of course jos was well on my next visit in Holland or dirk will give you all my photos but for now there is nothing.
is missing! stollen to 669 wn MO07 louanec !!!
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a small gift for jos, I do not think a person is the picture of the tip 612 of the castle was inside. I managed entry ay!
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PS:of course jos was well on my next visit in Holland or dirk will give you all my photos but for now there is nothing.