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German limbers

Post by jopaerya » 23 Dec 2010 17:49

Hello

Here some picture's of limbers , mostly used with horse drawn .

Foto's = Ebay.de

First one the 10.5 cm l.F.H. 18 and the last two pictures 15 cm s.F.H. 18
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Re: German limbers

Post by Sturm78 » 23 Dec 2010 19:19

Thank you for the images, Jopaerya.

Does anyone know the weights of the 15cm sFH18 barrel and carriage trailers in this horse drawn version?

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Re: German limbers

Post by peeved » 25 Dec 2010 13:11

Hi Sturm,

According to Waffen-Revue N:o 40 the empty horse-drawn limber weighed 620 kg and its equipment 80 kg; Including the carriage weighing 3224 kg (without recoil spades and some sheet metal implement called Ansteckbleche) and carriage equipment weighing another 100 kg that comes to a total carriage load of 4024 kg.

The barrel carriage weighed 1100 kg; Add 1760 kg for the barrel, 210 kg for the recoil spades, 48 kg for Ansteckbleche, 40 kg for loading ramps, 110 kg for barrel carriage equipment, 620 kg for the empty limber and 80 kg for its equipment for a total of 3968 kg.

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Re: German limbers

Post by Sturm78 » 25 Dec 2010 20:01

Thank you very much for your information, Markus. :D

Greetings, Sturm78

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Re: German limbers

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Dec 2010 10:19

Hi all,

Two images from Ebay:

Image 1: 10.5cm leFH18 limber. This image seems show a captured artillery park in Russia (I think the artillery pieces in the background are 122mm M1910-30 howitzers although it is difficult to ensure)
Image 2: 15cm sFH18 carriage trailer

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Re: German limbers

Post by JKernwerk » 27 Dec 2010 18:05

Hi Jos,
You can find some of the older limbers of France on the site of Lovett artillery page.
http://www.lovettartillery.com/
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Re: German limbers

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Jan 2011 12:38

Hi all,

15cm sFH18: Af.19 barrel wagon

Image from Ebay
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Re: German limbers

Post by jopaerya » 04 Jan 2011 20:14

Hi

This limber is not horse -drawn , looks behind a truck .

Picture = Ebay

Regards Jos
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Re: German limbers

Post by Ralph Lovett » 07 Jan 2011 19:52

I am rebuilding a German 10,5cm lFH 1916 Limber (Protze). This is the link for the web site:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/10.5cm_l ... imber.html

This is the web page for WW1 German Foot Artillery Saddles and Harnessing:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/Foot%20A ... rness.html

This is the web page for WW1 German Field Artillery Saddles and Harnessing:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/Field%20 ... rness.html

I have nearly completed the six horse team saddles and harnessing for a WW2 German Limber. This is the web page:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/WW2_ERA_ ... ssing.html

I am looking for parts for the German 10,5cm lFH and 7,7cm lFK Limbers. Please contact me if you have parts for these or detailed technical drawings.

Hope some of you enjoy these
R/
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Re: German limbers

Post by jopaerya » 19 Jan 2011 18:53

Here a other photo from a limber from Ebay .

Regards Jos
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Re: German limbers

Post by jopaerya » 13 Feb 2011 19:18

Here a other picture of a limber from Ebay

Regards Jos
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Re: German limbers

Post by Clive Mortimore » 13 Feb 2011 21:27

Ralph Lovett wrote:I am rebuilding a German 10,5cm lFH 1916 Limber (Protze). This is the link for the web site:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/10.5cm_l ... imber.html

This is the web page for WW1 German Foot Artillery Saddles and Harnessing:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/Foot%20A ... rness.html

This is the web page for WW1 German Field Artillery Saddles and Harnessing:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/Field%20 ... rness.html

I have nearly completed the six horse team saddles and harnessing for a WW2 German Limber. This is the web page:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/WW2_ERA_ ... ssing.html

I am looking for parts for the German 10,5cm lFH and 7,7cm lFK Limbers. Please contact me if you have parts for these or detailed technical drawings.

Hope some of you enjoy these
R/
Ralph Lovett
Hi Ralph

Having viewed your excellent website I have a question for you. The German army in WW2 used a different pattern of harness for the draft horses for the post WW1 guns like the 10.5 cm FH18, the 7.5 cm IG 18 and wagons like the Hf 1 and Hf2 than the WW1 harness on your website. Did the horses of older (WW1) equipment that was used a second time round pull their loads in the new or old style harness.
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Re: German limbers

Post by Ralph Lovett » 14 Feb 2011 00:03

Clive

The German WW2 style harness and M 1925 saddles were used with both new equipment and the WW1 Era legacy limbers and guns.

Thanks for the kind words about my collection and web site.

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Re: German limbers

Post by Clive Mortimore » 14 Feb 2011 01:34

Thank you Ralph.

The reason I asked is I do drawings for a wargames site and have done the WW2 harness for a 10.5 cm FH 18 limber and a If.5 MG wagon and was going to do a variation with the older harness as well as possibly draw a WW1 limber and team.
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/JClick.php?UID=6518
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/JClick.php?UID=6296

I have done some WW1 horse teams but they are British ones,
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/donated/clive/rha1914.png
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/JClick.php?UID=3153
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Re: German limbers

Post by jopaerya » 11 Mar 2011 18:31

Hello

A other German limber from Ebay.usa

Regards Jos
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