German limbers

[jopaerya]

Hello

Here some picture's of limbers , mostly used with horse drawn .

Foto's = Ebay.de

First one the 10.5 cm l.F.H. 18 and the last two pictures 15 cm s.F.H. 18

[Sturm78]

Thank you for the images, Jopaerya.

Does anyone know the weights of the 15cm sFH18 barrel and carriage trailers in this horse drawn version?

Regards Sturm78

[peeved]

Hi Sturm,

According to Waffen-Revue N:o 40 the empty horse-drawn limber weighed 620 kg and its equipment 80 kg; Including the carriage weighing 3224 kg (without recoil spades and some sheet metal implement called Ansteckbleche) and carriage equipment weighing another 100 kg that comes to a total carriage load of 4024 kg.

The barrel carriage weighed 1100 kg; Add 1760 kg for the barrel, 210 kg for the recoil spades, 48 kg for Ansteckbleche, 40 kg for loading ramps, 110 kg for barrel carriage equipment, 620 kg for the empty limber and 80 kg for its equipment for a total of 3968 kg.

Markus

[Sturm78]

Thank you very much for your information, Markus.

Greetings, Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Two images from Ebay:

Image 1: 10.5cm leFH18 limber. This image seems show a captured artillery park in Russia (I think the artillery pieces in the background are 122mm M1910-30 howitzers although it is difficult to ensure)
Image 2: 15cm sFH18 carriage trailer

Regards Sturm78

[JKernwerk]

Hi Jos,
You can find some of the older limbers of France on the site of Lovett artillery page.
http://www.lovettartillery.com/
Greetings Jack.

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

15cm sFH18: Af.19 barrel wagon

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

[jopaerya]

Hi

This limber is not horse -drawn , looks behind a truck .

Picture = Ebay

Regards Jos

[Ralph Lovett]

I am rebuilding a German 10,5cm lFH 1916 Limber (Protze). This is the link for the web site:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/10.5cm_l ... imber.html

This is the web page for WW1 German Foot Artillery Saddles and Harnessing:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/Foot%20A ... rness.html

This is the web page for WW1 German Field Artillery Saddles and Harnessing:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/Field%20 ... rness.html

I have nearly completed the six horse team saddles and harnessing for a WW2 German Limber. This is the web page:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/WW2_ERA_ ... ssing.html

I am looking for parts for the German 10,5cm lFH and 7,7cm lFK Limbers. Please contact me if you have parts for these or detailed technical drawings.

Hope some of you enjoy these
R/
Ralph Lovett

[jopaerya]

Here a other photo from a limber from Ebay .

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Here a other picture of a limber from Ebay

Regards Jos

[Clive Mortimore]

I am rebuilding a German 10,5cm lFH 1916 Limber (Protze). This is the link for the web site:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/10.5cm_l ... imber.html

This is the web page for WW1 German Foot Artillery Saddles and Harnessing:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/Foot%20A ... rness.html

This is the web page for WW1 German Field Artillery Saddles and Harnessing:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/Field%20 ... rness.html

I have nearly completed the six horse team saddles and harnessing for a WW2 German Limber. This is the web page:

http://www.lovettartillery.com/WW2_ERA_ ... ssing.html

I am looking for parts for the German 10,5cm lFH and 7,7cm lFK Limbers. Please contact me if you have parts for these or detailed technical drawings.

Hope some of you enjoy these
R/
Ralph Lovett

Hi Ralph

Having viewed your excellent website I have a question for you. The German army in WW2 used a different pattern of harness for the draft horses for the post WW1 guns like the 10.5 cm FH18, the 7.5 cm IG 18 and wagons like the Hf 1 and Hf2 than the WW1 harness on your website. Did the horses of older (WW1) equipment that was used a second time round pull their loads in the new or old style harness.

[Ralph Lovett]

Clive

The German WW2 style harness and M 1925 saddles were used with both new equipment and the WW1 Era legacy limbers and guns.

Thanks for the kind words about my collection and web site.

R/

Ralph

[Clive Mortimore]

Thank you Ralph.

The reason I asked is I do drawings for a wargames site and have done the WW2 harness for a 10.5 cm FH 18 limber and a If.5 MG wagon and was going to do a variation with the older harness as well as possibly draw a WW1 limber and team.
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/JClick.php?UID=6518
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/JClick.php?UID=6296

I have done some WW1 horse teams but they are British ones,
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/donated/clive/rha1914.png
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/JClick.php?UID=3153

[jopaerya]

Hello

A other German limber from Ebay.usa

Regards Jos