12 cm Granatwerfer 42

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by veeteetee » 09 Apr 2014 14:13

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Apr 2014 19:18

Hi all,

A view of the base plate of an 120mm PM-38 mortar, captured:

Image from EBay
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Draoich » 15 May 2014 08:02

Hi All,
Here is a photo of a Russian limber/ ammunition trailer for the Khm-38 107mm mortar. It appears that in this type of limber that the mortar ammunition was held in ammunition boxes held within the open ammunition limber. This photo came from
http://moscowparks.narod.ru/victpark/te ... ovguns.htm (accessed 21/04/14)
sirius_msk_pict1858.jpg
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Draoich » 16 May 2014 21:32

Hi All,
Here is a wartime photo of a Russian Khm-38 107mm mortar in action near Moscow. It clearly shows the same ammunition boxes as those in the ammunition limber from my previous post. This photo came from http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... Moscow.jpg
107mm mortar defending Moscow.jpg
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Draoich » 01 Jun 2014 17:12

Hi All,
Here is an amazing photo of a whole trainload of Russian 120mm mortars. The photo was taken sometime after the train had been captured somewhere near Kiev. This photo came from http://waralbum.ru/171360/
SOVIET TRAIN CAPTURED NEAR KIEV.jpg
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Draoich » 16 Jun 2014 00:08

Hi All,
Here is an interesting photo of at least 5' 120mm PM-38's preparing to fire. The photo was taken in 1943 according to the information given with the photo. This photo came from http://www.wio.ru/galgrnd/art2/pm38in1943.jpg
pm38in1943.jpg
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Re: 12cm Gr.W 378(r) Russisch 38

Post by Granatwerfer » 21 Jun 2014 16:14

Hi Guys

Have made a start on restoring my mortar over the last couple of months.

Have started with the breech making dummy parts for those that are missing, still have the fire selector to make. Gave it a coat of sand paint today as I was fed up with the red primer and I was spraying some other bits today anyway. The breech is dated 1942.

Before and after pictures attached below.

When this is finished will start on the bipod.

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12cm Mortar Breech Painted.jpg
Gr.W 378(r) Mortar Breech 25-10-2013.jpg
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Draoich » 29 Jun 2014 23:42

Hi All,
Here is a very interesting photo of a 120mm mortar at Aberdeen Proving Ground in 1936, according to the information given with the photo. The photo came from Ebay and is incorrectly captioned as a new 81mm mortar being tested.
120mm MORTAR.jpg
Can anyone identify this mortar?

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 30 Jun 2014 07:58

Is that perhaps a Soviet 160mm Mortar ?
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by karlik » 01 Jul 2014 18:16

Alanmccoubrey wrote:Is that perhaps a Soviet 160mm Mortar ?
Hi!
Soviet appeared only in 1943.

Possible french 120-mm Brandt?

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by veeteetee » 01 Jul 2014 19:26

See page 3 of this thread for info on this Brandt mortar.

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Draoich » 01 Jul 2014 20:39

Hi All,
Thank you for helping to identify the mortar. I am now fairly sure that it is a variant of the Brandt 120mm Heavy Towed Mortar of 1935. It is not quite the same as the one shown on page 3 of this thread because it has an octagonal-shaped base-plate but otherwise it is the same. An example of this version survives in perfect condition in the US Army Ordnance Museum. The catalogue number is US Army Ordnance Museum/FMAR Foreign Artillery and Weapons/FMAR1575. A photo of it can be found at
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v218/ ... %20mortar/
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by ain92 » 03 Jul 2014 12:05

Draoich wrote:Hi All,
Thank you for helping to identify the mortar. I am now fairly sure that it is a variant of the Brandt 120mm Heavy Towed Mortar of 1935. It is not quite the same as the one shown on page 3 of this thread because it has an octagonal-shaped base-plate but otherwise it is the same. An example of this version survives in perfect condition in the US Army Ordnance Museum. The catalogue number is US Army Ordnance Museum/FMAR Foreign Artillery and Weapons/FMAR1575. A photo of it can be found at
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v218/ ... %20mortar/
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Draoich
Hello all,
I'm pretty sure the museum sign shown on the second photo is misplaced, it's located near a clear Soviet 120-mm PM-38 on a V-20 trailer, probably captured in Korea.

Regarding the phirst photo, the mortar is surely the same as on eBay photo, but slightly different from the image posted by me on 31 January 2013. The thing near the baseplate is a Brandt scaleograph patented by Robert C. Brandt in 1957.
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Alanmccoubrey » 03 Jul 2014 17:03

karlik wrote:
Alanmccoubrey wrote:Is that perhaps a Soviet 160mm Mortar ?
Hi!
Soviet appeared only in 1943.

Possible french 120-mm Brandt?

Thanks, I mis-read the date as 1946 8O
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 29 Jul 2014 09:04

Hi all,

A captured 120mm PM-38 Soviet mortar:

Image from EBay
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