12 cm Granatwerfer 42

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Aug 2014 10:05

Hi all,

Another captured soviet 120mm PM-38:

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 09 Aug 2014 15:54

Hi all,

I found this image on EBay. I am not sure but I think ammunition limbers for the Khm-38 107mm mortar

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Xavier » 06 Oct 2014 17:59

havent posted in a while, but I am baaack!
by looking at the Richtaufsats, I can afirm this is the german version of the mortar..its either a RA35 or 38...it seems they are not using a baseplate...

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Ithink this guys are the same as in page 2 Post Number:#24 Postby Sturm78 on Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:12 pm..!
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by veeteetee » 06 Oct 2014 20:11

Nobody shoots with an 120 mm mortar without a base plate, ever. The baseplate is in the picture is under the sand and mud, well on its way to China...

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Nov 2014 15:29

Hi all,

I am not sure: 120mm PM-38 soviet mortar ??

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Granatwerfer » 02 Nov 2014 19:17

Yes I think you are correct as you can see the small folding handle of the traverse unit. This is the same as on my 12cm mortar.

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Nov 2014 20:26

Thank you Granatwerfer.

Here, another image from EBay. I am not sure if German or Soviet model...

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 24 Nov 2014 19:28

Hi all,

A captured 120mm PM-38 soviet mortar (I think):

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Draoich » 12 Jan 2015 21:03

Hi All,
Here is another copy of the same photo, which comes from ebay some time ago. The 120mm mortar is most definitely Soviet, probably a PM-38. The traversing handle is a crank arm rather than a wheel so it is not the German produced version.
SOVIET 120mm MORTAR IN GERMAN USE - PHOTO 1.jpg
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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 13 Jan 2015 12:14

Hi all,

I am not sure but I would say that these abandoned limbers are for the Khm-38 107mm mortar.
It is curious that, according to http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/MAIN.html, the finnish army not used this model of mortar .... :?

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by veeteetee » 13 Jan 2015 18:09

They didn´t, but the previous owners left them behind for Finns to collect.

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by veeteetee » 13 Jan 2015 19:09

Original text: When leaving Mäntyselkä the Russians left artillery, heavy tractors, mortars, ammo limbers and other materiel for Finns to take as their (the Russians) evacuation road had been cut and the village of Kumsjärvi had been taken (by the Finns) before they could reach it. Mäntyselkä 1941.10.27

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 14 Jan 2015 11:59

Thanks veeteetee

Do you know why the Finns not used these 107mm Khm-38 captured mortars ?? :?

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by veeteetee » 14 Jan 2015 19:15

I´d assume there were too few 107 mm mortars and too little ammo to be worth the trouble. Only one type of 107 mm ammo was listed in Finnish manuals and nothing is said about velocities, range or gun type.

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Re: 12cm Granatwerfer 42

Post by Sturm78 » 02 Feb 2015 12:31

Hi all,

120mm PM-38 soviet mortars:

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