12 cm Granatwerfer 42

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Another captured soviet 120mm PM-38:

Image from EBay
Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

I found this image on EBay. I am not sure but I think ammunition limbers for the Khm-38 107mm mortar

Sturm78

[Xavier]

havent posted in a while, but I am baaack!
by looking at the Richtaufsats, I can afirm this is the german version of the mortar..its either a RA35 or 38...it seems they are not using a baseplate...

EDIT:
Ithink this guys are the same as in page 2 Post Number:#24 Postby Sturm78 on Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:12 pm..!

[veeteetee]

Nobody shoots with an 120 mm mortar without a base plate, ever. The baseplate is in the picture is under the sand and mud, well on its way to China...

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

I am not sure: 120mm PM-38 soviet mortar ??

Image from EBay
Sturm78

[Granatwerfer]

Yes I think you are correct as you can see the small folding handle of the traverse unit. This is the same as on my 12cm mortar.

Regards

Granatwerfer

[Sturm78]

Thank you Granatwerfer.

Here, another image from EBay. I am not sure if German or Soviet model...

Sturm78

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

A captured 120mm PM-38 soviet mortar (I think):

Image from EBay
Sturm78

[Draoich]

Hi All,
Here is another copy of the same photo, which comes from ebay some time ago. The 120mm mortar is most definitely Soviet, probably a PM-38. The traversing handle is a crank arm rather than a wheel so it is not the German produced version.

SOVIET 120mm MORTAR IN GERMAN USE - PHOTO 1.jpg

Regards,
Draoich

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

I am not sure but I would say that these abandoned limbers are for the Khm-38 107mm mortar.
It is curious that, according to http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/MAIN.html, the finnish army not used this model of mortar ....

Image from SA-Kuva archive (60009)
Sturm78

[veeteetee]

They didn´t, but the previous owners left them behind for Finns to collect.

[veeteetee]

Original text: When leaving Mäntyselkä the Russians left artillery, heavy tractors, mortars, ammo limbers and other materiel for Finns to take as their (the Russians) evacuation road had been cut and the village of Kumsjärvi had been taken (by the Finns) before they could reach it. Mäntyselkä 1941.10.27

[Sturm78]

Thanks veeteetee

Do you know why the Finns not used these 107mm Khm-38 captured mortars ??

Regards Sturm78

[veeteetee]

I´d assume there were too few 107 mm mortars and too little ammo to be worth the trouble. Only one type of 107 mm ammo was listed in Finnish manuals and nothing is said about velocities, range or gun type.

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

120mm PM-38 soviet mortars:

Image from EBay
Sturm78