75mm Mle 1897 in german service
75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Hi all,
I have seen the following names for the 75mm Mle 1897 guns captured by the Germans
7.5cm FK97f - I think the standard 75mm Mle 1897 french field gun (horse drawn)
7.5cm FK97p - I think the standard 75mm Mle 1897 polish field gun (horse drawn or mot.)
7.5cm FK231f - I think the standard 75mm Mle 1897 french field gun (mot.)
7.5cm FK232f - I think 75mm Mle 1897-33 used in AT role
7.5cm KM97f - I think 75mm Mle 1897 on crinoline pedestal mount
Is this correct ?
Apart from this, the Germans combined the barrel of this gun on other German manufactured carriages:
7.5cm Pak 97/38 - 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on 5cm Pak 38 carriage
?? - 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on Lafette C39 static mount. See image 1
?? - 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on Sockellafette static mount. See image 2
Does anyone know the German names for these two latest combinations? 7.5cm Flak 97f ??
Images from AXH Forum
Regards Sturm78
I have seen the following names for the 75mm Mle 1897 guns captured by the Germans
7.5cm FK97f - I think the standard 75mm Mle 1897 french field gun (horse drawn)
7.5cm FK97p - I think the standard 75mm Mle 1897 polish field gun (horse drawn or mot.)
7.5cm FK231f - I think the standard 75mm Mle 1897 french field gun (mot.)
7.5cm FK232f - I think 75mm Mle 1897-33 used in AT role
7.5cm KM97f - I think 75mm Mle 1897 on crinoline pedestal mount
Is this correct ?
Apart from this, the Germans combined the barrel of this gun on other German manufactured carriages:
7.5cm Pak 97/38 - 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on 5cm Pak 38 carriage
?? - 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on Lafette C39 static mount. See image 1
?? - 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on Sockellafette static mount. See image 2
Does anyone know the German names for these two latest combinations? 7.5cm Flak 97f ??
Images from AXH Forum
Regards Sturm78
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Hi Sturm78,
This is what I have:
7.5 cm FK231(f) = 75 mm Mle 1897 with pneumatic tires (2 types)
7,5 cm FK232(f) = 75 mm Mle 97/33: a Mle 1897 with split carriage, designed for use in AT role.
7,5 cm KM97(f) = 75 mm Mle 1897 on Mle 1916 carriages (2 types: “crinoline” or “for firing lighting shells” i.e conical mount)
“??- 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on Lafette C39 static mount.” : on the cover page of a German munition booklet”, I’ve found the following designation:
7,5 cm Feldkanone L/36 M/97 in Radlafette für die Küste u. Bordlafette C/39. In short, it would become 7,5 cm FKM 97(f).
“??- 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on Sockellafette static mount. “: I’m not sure about this one. I’ve seen the designation 7,5 cm Flak 97(f) here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6&start=15
It looks like a German design as I haven't seen any similar French platform.
Emmanuel
This is what I have:
7.5 cm FK231(f) = 75 mm Mle 1897 with pneumatic tires (2 types)
7,5 cm FK232(f) = 75 mm Mle 97/33: a Mle 1897 with split carriage, designed for use in AT role.
7,5 cm KM97(f) = 75 mm Mle 1897 on Mle 1916 carriages (2 types: “crinoline” or “for firing lighting shells” i.e conical mount)
“??- 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on Lafette C39 static mount.” : on the cover page of a German munition booklet”, I’ve found the following designation:
7,5 cm Feldkanone L/36 M/97 in Radlafette für die Küste u. Bordlafette C/39. In short, it would become 7,5 cm FKM 97(f).
“??- 75mm Mle 1897 barrel on Sockellafette static mount. “: I’m not sure about this one. I’ve seen the designation 7,5 cm Flak 97(f) here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6&start=15
It looks like a German design as I haven't seen any similar French platform.
Emmanuel
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Thanks for your answer, Emmanuel.
Here an image of a 75mm Mle 1897 “for firing lighting shells” i.e conical mount
Image from Ebay
Sturm78
Here an image of a 75mm Mle 1897 “for firing lighting shells” i.e conical mount
Image from Ebay
Sturm78
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
From my MCFA.
Markus
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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Markus,
There was some discussion about the mounting of this 75 mm Mle 1897 version known as 7,5 cm F.K.M. 97 in Lafette C.39 here :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=120792
Emmanuel
There was some discussion about the mounting of this 75 mm Mle 1897 version known as 7,5 cm F.K.M. 97 in Lafette C.39 here :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=120792
Emmanuel
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Hi all,
A 75mm Mle 1897 frecnh gun in german service: 7.5cm FK97f
Image from Ebay
Sturm78
A 75mm Mle 1897 frecnh gun in german service: 7.5cm FK97f
Image from Ebay
Sturm78
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Anyone with pictures of a fundament to a sockel-mounted 7,5 cm Mle 1897, showing the bolts and foundation ?
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Hi
Who knows were this photo has been taken ??
Photo = Ebay
Regards Jos
Who knows were this photo has been taken ??
Photo = Ebay
Regards Jos
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Hi Jos,
I have this photo (rom ebay) of the same location (see the same battlements). There's a clue written in the back: "ein franz. Küstengeschütz vor St-George". Unfortunately, there are tons of "St-Georges" (it always takes a "s" in French) in France and I could find only two near the ocean: St-George-de-Didonne near Royan and St-George-d'Oleron on Oleron island. The only batteries in these respective areas armed with 75 G in 1939-40 seem to have been at Fort du Verdon (Pointe-de-Graves) and Chassiron battery on Oleron island. But I haven’t been able to pinpoint further.
Obviously, it cannot be a St-George on one of the Channel Islands (which would indeed be spelled without a “s”).
Emmanuel
I have this photo (rom ebay) of the same location (see the same battlements). There's a clue written in the back: "ein franz. Küstengeschütz vor St-George". Unfortunately, there are tons of "St-Georges" (it always takes a "s" in French) in France and I could find only two near the ocean: St-George-de-Didonne near Royan and St-George-d'Oleron on Oleron island. The only batteries in these respective areas armed with 75 G in 1939-40 seem to have been at Fort du Verdon (Pointe-de-Graves) and Chassiron battery on Oleron island. But I haven’t been able to pinpoint further.
Obviously, it cannot be a St-George on one of the Channel Islands (which would indeed be spelled without a “s”).
Emmanuel
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Thanks Emmanuel
You have narrowed the search .
Regards Jos
You have narrowed the search .
Regards Jos
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
From exp. eBay.de (In Poland IIRC).
Markus
Markus
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Markus,
Nothing indicates that the pictures were taken in Poland. The mounting is different from the "1915 platform" of the 75 mm Mle 97 AA gun used by the French and the Poles and seems to have been a German design.
See here for more pictures of the 7,5 cm Flak 97(f) :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6&start=30
Emmanuel
Nothing indicates that the pictures were taken in Poland. The mounting is different from the "1915 platform" of the 75 mm Mle 97 AA gun used by the French and the Poles and seems to have been a German design.
See here for more pictures of the 7,5 cm Flak 97(f) :
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6&start=30
Emmanuel
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Hi Emmanuel.
As I recall it, Poland was mentioned in the eBay description as the photo location however significant that may be.
Markus
As I recall it, Poland was mentioned in the eBay description as the photo location however significant that may be.
Markus
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Unfortunately, we can trust the location of a picture on ebay only if we can see the writing on the back or on the photo album.
Emmanuel
Emmanuel
Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service
Amunition trailers?
George
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