75mm Mle 1897 in german service

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by jopaerya » 09 May 2014 20:41

The 7.5 cm Flak (f) in a emplacement .

Photo = Ebay

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by jopaerya » 12 May 2014 16:22

Must be a very common flak gun as we can see on all the picture's , this one is from Ebay .

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by Sturm78 » 10 Aug 2014 15:20

Hi all

I found this image on EBay. This gun seems to have a round platform below. Any idea about this ?? :?


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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by Manuferey » 11 Aug 2014 16:44

Sturm78 wrote: a round platform below. Any idea about this ?? :?
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This is an ARBEL platform.

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by Sturm78 » 11 Aug 2014 22:33

Emmanuel wrote
This is an ARBEL platform.
ARBEL platform ?? :? I had never heard of this platform. Any additional info about this device?

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by Manuferey » 11 Aug 2014 23:38

Additional info but only in French:
http://atf40.forumculture.net/t4573-pla ... anon-de-75

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by StefanSiverud » 12 Aug 2014 01:01

What's the difference between an "ARBEL platform" and a traverse wheel/platform?

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by Clive Mortimore » 12 Aug 2014 07:53

StefanSiverud wrote:What's the difference between an "ARBEL platform" and a traverse wheel/platform?
Hi Stefan

I don't think there is any difference. From memory the ARBEL platform wasissued to units in the anti-tank role. It was to make life easier for the gun crew when re-laying the gun.

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by Sturm78 » 12 Aug 2014 09:26

Thank you for the link, Emmanuel. :wink:

It seems that this device was adopted in 1935

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by ALVF » 12 Aug 2014 10:42

Hello,

The "plateforme Arbel modèle 1935" was built to 1000 exemplars.
First, the Arbel platforms were issued to anti-tanks batteries (4 platforms in each Battery).
When the 47 mm anti-tank was introduced in service, the platform Arbel was issued to each 75 mm gun Artillery Battery (1 platform in each battery), so most 75 mm guns batteries were able to use at least one gun in anti-tank mission in 1940.
In 1920-1930 years, it was also the "plateforme à lambourde d'ancrage" which was used in anti-tank mission.
The older platform was anchored in the ground and it took time to install. The Arbel Platform was much more easy to use because it was only clasped on the ground.
See my paper with photographs of these two typs of platforms in french Review "GBM" nr 106, dated october 2013.
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Guy FRançois.

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by StefanSiverud » 12 Aug 2014 20:59

I see. Thanks Clive and Guy!

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by Sturm78 » 25 Aug 2014 11:21

Hi all,

An image from EBay: 75mm Mle 1897 on Mle 1916 mount

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Sep 2014 09:48

Hi all,

7.5cm Flak 97 (f)

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in German service

Post by Manuferey » 18 Sep 2014 01:58

I wonder if there were a designation such as 7,5 cm Flak 97(p) :idea: in addition to the (f) designation since
- there was the 7,5 cm FK 97(p) field gun
- the Polish Army used 75 mm Mle 1897 on Mle 1915 platforms as the 75 mm wz. 97/25
- many of these AA guns on cylindrical concrete mountings seem to have been used by the Germans in Poland (see remains)

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Re: 75mm Mle 1897 in german service

Post by jopaerya » 18 Sep 2014 07:29

Hello Emmanuel

Here a picture from a manual on this gun , source = Andrzej

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