Skoda artillery in late 1930s

Sturm78 · Post by **Sturm78** » 15 Aug 2011 12:15

Part 2:

Yugoslavia:

75mm Skoda M1928 mountain gun (Skoda CD) 7.5cm Geb.K 285j

upgrade of 7.5cm Skoda M15

76.5mm Skoda M1928 field gun (Skoda EF) 7.65cm FK 304j
100mm Skoda M1928 field howitzer 10cm leFH 317j

box trail, rounded shield but witout front seat, muzzle break (al least in the field gun. I am not sure if the howitzer had or not muzzle break), wooden wheels.

Sturm78

Sturm78 · Post by **Sturm78** » 15 Aug 2011 13:11

Part 3:

Romania:

75mm Skoda M1928 field gun

100mm Skoda M1930 field howitzer I think probably ex-czech howitzers (obtained via Germany). They are identical to
czech Vz.30 howitzers

105mm Skoda M1934 field howitzer

split trail, different shield narrower, not muzzle break, wooden wheels

Sturm78

The Edge · Post by **The Edge** » 15 Aug 2011 13:51

Sturm78 wrote:Part 2:

Yugoslavia:

75mm Skoda M1928 mountain gun (Skoda CD) 7.5cm Geb.K 285j
upgrade of 7.5cm Skoda M15 - YES

76.5mm Skoda M1928 field gun (Skoda EF) 7.65cm FK 304j
100mm Skoda M1928 field howitzer 10cm leFH 317j

box trail, rounded shield but witout front seat, muzzle break (al least in the field gun. I am not sure if the howitzer had or not muzzle break - HAS ), wooden wheels. Field gun also has circular platform (as British 25-pnd) for high-elevation (AA) shooting.

Both your photos are "80mm M.1928" fiels guns (Skoda EF).

The Edge · Post by **The Edge** » 15 Aug 2011 14:08

I believe Romanian Skoda 75mm M.1928 looked like gun below. (i.e. very much alike Yugoslav 76,5mm gun)

All photos of "narrow shield" Skodas represents a 100mm M.1934 model. (Must visit Bucharest Museum to prove this once for all!) Photo below is from .pdf history of Romanian Artillery (link given in Clive Mortimore's post). Note that this history HAS NOT entry for 75mm Skoda M.1928. There is info about 24 batteries of such guns purchased (i.e. total of 96 guns), so I suspect that no Romanian Skoda M.1928 exists today.

Sturm78 · Post by **Sturm78** » 15 Aug 2011 16:25

Thank you, The Edge.

About your last image of a 75mm M1928 Romanian gun, I think that is exactly the same as yugoslavian 76.5mm Skoda M1928 gun.

Therefore, for Romania:

75mm Skoda M1928 field gun = yugoslavian 76.5mm Skoda M1928

box trail, rounded shield without front seat, muzzle break, wooden wheels

105mm Skoda M1934 field howitzer

split trail, different shield narrower, not muzzle break, wooden wheels ( It seems some pieces were modernized with pneumatic tires, according to my first image of this thread)

105mm Skoda M1940-43 field howitzer

split trail, diffrent shield, muzzle break, wooden wheels.
It looks almost identical to Skoda 105/H41 sold to Finland in 1941 = Skoda H2(H4)

Does anyone have any information about the Romanian mountain artillery?

105mm Skoda D9 ? http://www.worldwar2.ro/foto/?id=167&area=31

75mm Skoda M1939 ??

105mm Skoda M1939 ??

On the other hand, Does somebody have any image of yugoslavian 100mm Skoda M1928?

Sturm78

The Edge · Post by **The Edge** » 15 Aug 2011 19:09

Sturm78 wrote:About your last image of a 75mm M1928 Romanian gun, I think that is exactly the same as yugoslavian 76.5mm Skoda M1928 gun.

Therefore, for Romania:

75mm Skoda M1928 field gun = yugoslavian 76.5mm Skoda M1928
box trail, rounded shield without front seat, muzzle break, wooden wheels
Until we find some better info/photo. (For example, I don't think Romanaian guns had AA capacity.)

100mm Skoda M1934 field howitzer
Split trail, different shield narrower, not muzzle break, wooden wheels (Skoda Export model "FE1")(It seems some pieces were modernized with pneumatic tires, according to my first image of this thread) Agree

105mm Skoda M1940-43 field howitzer
split trail, diffrent shield, muzzle break, wooden wheels.
(From my experience, you can't rely on museum pieces regarding the wheels)
It looks almost identical to Skoda 105/H41 sold to Finland in 1941 = Skoda H2(H4)
According to book: Karlický, Vladimír. 1975. "Ceskoslovenské delostrelecké zbrane", Romanians had "H4" model.

Other Skoda howitzers in Romanian use during WW2:

- 100mm Skoda M.1914 (WW1 war booty)
- 100mm Skoda M.1916 (WW1 war booty)
- 100mm Skoda M.14/19 (ex-Polish or Czech guns; maybe even modernized Romanian M.14 howitzers from WW1)
- 100mm Skoda M.1930 (ex-Czech vz. 30 guns; source: Germany, after 1939)
- 100mm Skoda F2 ("vz. 38") - according to named book, Germans also delivered some of them to Romania.
- 105mm Skoda M.1939 (Skoda export model "D9") - Produced for Afghanistan, delivered to Romania by Germans.

The Edge · Post by **The Edge** » 15 Aug 2011 19:26

Sturm78 wrote: 75mm Skoda M1939

This mountain gun had Skoda export designation "C6". (Sadly, I have no photo of it.

)
It seems that Czechoslovak Army also adopted this gun, but they came to late to see service.
Germans sold them to Romanians.
You will find the reference to this guns and Iran, but I don't believe to this info.
(Mainly because there are so many photos of Bofors L22 in Iranian service; two similar guns made no sense.)
Other named customer state was Afghanistan (along 105mm D9 howitzers - same story).
Czech also produced a "cavalry gun" counterpart of this gun, 75mm vz. 1935 (Skoda model "E3")

The Edge · Post by **The Edge** » 15 Aug 2011 19:32

Sturm78 wrote:On the other hand, does somebody have any image of yugoslavian 100mm Skoda M1928?

Sturm78 · Post by **Sturm78** » 16 Aug 2011 09:20

Thank you very much for your images and informations, The Edge.

As for the Yugoslav Skoda artillery pieces, I think the issue is resolved:

76.5mm M1928 gun and 100mm M1928 howitzer: box trail, rounded shield without front seat, wooden wheels and muzzle break.

As for Romania I still I have some doubts:

About 105mm Skoda M1939 mountain howitzer (D9) this is the only wartime image that I have found:
It is the same piece that the museum`s image?

Box trail, wooden wheels (originally), big straight shield, not muzzle break

I think 75mm Skoda M1939 (C6) mountain gun would be similar

Regards Sturm78

Sturm78 · Post by **Sturm78** » 14 Sep 2011 18:57

Hi all,

A rare image of a Romanian Skoda M1934 howitzer in tow:
There are very few wartime images of this howitzer

Image from Ebay
Sturm78

Sturm78 · Post by **Sturm78** » 27 Sep 2011 17:30

Hi all,

Two images from Ebay: Yugoslavian 15cm Skoda M.36 (K2) howitzers and 10.5cm Skoda M.36 (J) guns abandoned

Sturm78

Sturm78 · Post by **Sturm78** » 18 Dec 2011 15:16

Hi all,

Does anyone have any information about this Skoda weapon?
His designation was 10cm or 10.5cm H3

Was it a design for export? Did any country use this gun?
Specifications?

Thanks in advance. Sturm78

karlik · Post by **karlik** » 18 Dec 2011 15:35

Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,
Does anyone have any information about this Skoda weapon?
His designation was 10cm or 10.5cm H3
Was it a design for export? Did any country use this gun?
Specifications?
Thanks in advance. Sturm78

Hi!
Here is some information
http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/tit ... ce/t/59840

Manuferey · Post by **Manuferey** » 18 Dec 2011 17:07

I assume that this howitzer was intended to replace the 10 cm vz. 30 yet but the program was cancelled due to the German invasion.

Emmanuel

Sturm78 · Post by **Sturm78** » 18 Dec 2011 19:56

Thank you for your replies, karlik and Emmanuel.

I guess the Germans did not continue the manufacture of this howitzer during the war, no?
It is rare that a copy has survived.

Sturm78

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