17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

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17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by jopaerya » 27 Sep 2011 15:47

Hello

Here some picture's of a 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L reused by the Belgiam army as coast defence ,
according to Wikipedia 6 guns were captured by the Belgium after the armistice of 1918 .
Does somebody know if these guns were captured in 1940 and were used in W.W.2 ??

Photo's = Ebay and Soma-Ceges Brussel

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Nov 2011 10:06

Hi all,

A 17cm SK L40 i.R.L. belgian coastal gun abandoned in 1940:

Image from Ebay
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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Apr 2012 13:55

Hi all,

Another image of an 17cm SK L/40 i.R.L belgian coastal gun abandoned in 1940:

Image from historicalmedia website
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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by jopaerya » 05 Sep 2012 17:41

Could the same place as the other picture's in this Topic .

Photo = Ebay

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by CNOCK » 06 Sep 2012 08:59

Hi,

these guns were abandoned German guns from WWI

I recognize Batterie Wilhelm II at Knokke in the first 3 pics.
Other 17 cm guns were placed in Battery Deutschland at Bredene

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by jopaerya » 06 Sep 2012 09:02

Thanks Eddy

The last photo has a sort of retrievers on top of the barrel .

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by CNOCK » 06 Sep 2012 09:08

Hi Jos,

indeed retrievers
the other guns are all ex naval guns

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Oct 2012 22:57

Hi all,

Another image from Ebay:

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Sturm78 » 11 Dec 2012 14:45

Hi all,

I found this image of an 17cm SK (E) L40 Samuel on Ebay.
According to photocaption the image was taken in France in 1940, so I guess it is one of the guns obteined by Belgian Army after WW1.
Does somebody know how many of these guns were obtained by Belgian Army?

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by ALVF » 11 Dec 2012 18:17

Hello,

Belgian Army had, after the first World War, 23 guns of 17-cm SKL/40:
-6 guns 17-cm SKL/40 auf Eisenbahnwagen "Samuel".
-17 guns 17-cm SKL/40 in Radlafette (i.R.L).
These guns were chiefly abandoned by "Marine Korps Flandern" or captured in october and november 1918.
They are two typs of 17-cm SKL/40 navy guns with same barrels but different recuperators:
-the guns from battleships turrets: from "Drehscheiben-Lafette (Drh.L)" with "Drehscheiben-Wiege".
-the guns from battleships casemates: from "Mittelpivot-Lafette (M.P.L)" with "Mittelpivot-Wiege".
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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Sturm78 » 12 Dec 2012 13:28

Thank you very much for your help, ALVF.

23 guns in total !! I suppose that Belgians would be low of ammo

How many of these guns were recaptured by germans in 1940?

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Clive Mortimore » 12 Dec 2012 14:42

Sturm78 wrote:Thank you very much for your help, ALVF.

23 guns in total !! I suppose that Belgians would be low of ammo

How many of these guns were recaptured by germans in 1940?

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To add to Strum's questions, were the recaptured guns reused by the Germans?

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Manuferey » 15 Dec 2012 00:22

ALVF wrote: [...]
They are two typs of 17-cm SKL/40 navy guns with same barrels but different recuperators:
-the guns from battleships turrets: from "Drehscheiben-Lafette (Drh.L)" with "Drehscheiben-Wiege".
-the guns from battleships casemates: from "Mittelpivot-Lafette (M.P.L)" with "Mittelpivot-Wiege".
[...]
On 05 september 2012 above, Jos posted a picture of a 17 cm SK L/40 from "Drehscheiben-Lafette (Drh.L)": note the recuperators/brakes on top of the barrel. 8-)

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Alejandro_ » 17 Dec 2012 12:41

Here some picture's of a 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L reused by the Belgiam army as coast defence
Very nice photos. I have a question regarding the Belgian use as coastal defence. The photos show that the guns have been moved to emplacements without any protection. Is there a specific reason? they wanted to keep them mobile? concrete emplacements would be very expensive?

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Clive Mortimore » 17 Dec 2012 15:09

Alejandro_ wrote:
Here some picture's of a 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L reused by the Belgiam army as coast defence
Very nice photos. I have a question regarding the Belgian use as coastal defence. The photos show that the guns have been moved to emplacements without any protection. Is there a specific reason? they wanted to keep them mobile? concrete emplacements would be very expensive?
Hi Alejandro

I think your find the reason they were moved out of their emplacements had something to do with the geographic location of the invading forces. Pointing out to sea was the wrong direction.

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