17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by ALVF » 17 Dec 2012 15:55

Hello,

The photographs of the 17-m SKL/40 in Radlafette (i.R.L) in big concrete emplacements show guns of "Groupe d'Artillerie de Côte" of belgian Army, some guns were in emplacements of the former 38-cm SKL/45 battery "Deutschland" of the Great War, so these "little" 17-cm guns were in former 38-cm "big" emplacements!
See the "Revue belge d'histoire militaire" tomes XXIII et XXIV from december 1980 to 1982 in which are some very interesting articles of lieutenant-colonel Bikar on "Artillerie Lourde sur Voie ferrée de l'Armée Belge" with also some documents of "Groupe d'Artilerie de Côte" in 1920-1940 years.
The 17-cm SKL/40 ex-german guns armed batteries of belgian ALVF and also coast batteries in 1940.
The belgian ALVF had also ex-german 28-cm SKL/40 "Bruno" guns and one 12 inch Railway Howitzer (buyed in 1916 to Great-Britain).
In 1930 years, the belgian ex-german 17-cm SKL/40 and 28-cm SKL/40 of belgian ALVF made trials in french ALVF testing proving ground of Bourges and Saint-Pierre-de-Quiberon.
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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Manuferey » 18 Dec 2012 00:33

The Germans used some 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L. guns as coastal artillery in Flanders in WW 1. Here is a gun at Westende destroyed by the shelling of British monitors :

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by schwarzermai » 30 Jan 2014 13:51

hello

was in ebay

any idea about the place??
Guy Francois wrote: "some guns were in emplacements of the former 38-cm SKL/45 battery "Deutschland" of the Great War"
so its (maybe) in Flandern in.....?

and off course the old question: was it re-used by the germans?

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by CNOCK » 30 Jan 2014 17:01

Hi,

post nr.17: not destroyed by British artillery but left behind during German retreat of October 1918
and gun destroyed by the Germans.

I don't know if the WWI 17 cm guns installed by the Blegian army at Kaiser Wilhelm II (Knokke) and Deutschland battery (Bredene)were reused by the Germans, but certainly not at these locations

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by CNOCK » 30 Jan 2014 17:02

post nr.18 : Bredene

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by schwarzermai » 30 Jan 2014 18:21

CNOCK wrote:post nr.18 : Bredene

Cnock

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Manuferey » 31 Jan 2014 01:18

CNOCK wrote:Hi,
post nr.17: not destroyed by British artillery but left behind during German retreat of October 1918
and gun destroyed by the Germans.
[...]
regards,
Cnock
This is what the British claim:
“A direct hit from our monitors off the Belgian coast wipes out a Hun defence battery, Mariakerke”. :?
The hole on the ground seems to indicate a large impact !
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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Aug 2014 15:00

Hi all,

An image from historicalmedia website:

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Manuferey » 18 Aug 2014 15:33

Based on the German officer on the right wearing a WW2 uniform, I would say that it is one of the Belgian 17 cm SK L/40 guns recaptured in May 1940 by the Germans. :idea:

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by CNOCK » 15 Sep 2014 13:52

Hi,

the 17 cm guns at Knokke and Bredene were indeed intented to protect the Belgian coast, along with the APX turrets on the seadiques along the Belgian coast. There was no intention to place the 17 cm guns in concrete.

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Sturm78 » 10 May 2015 11:30

Hi all,

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Sturm78 » 01 Oct 2015 10:29

Hi all,

Two images from EBay:

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by CNOCK » 02 Oct 2015 09:41

Hello,

looks like Bredene, batterie Deutschland, original guns removed by the Belgian army, and replaced by Belgian (ex-German) 17 cm guns.

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by jopaerya » 19 Jun 2016 08:34

It's the same place as Sturm78 picture here above and on page 1 , Regards Jos

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Re: 17 cm SK L/40 i.R.L

Post by Sturm78 » 26 Feb 2018 21:18

Hi all,

An image from Ebay
Any idea about the context where/when was taken this image ?

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