5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
Here is (I think) a picture of a 5,7 cm Pak 208(r) (ex-57 mm M1943 - ZIS-2) in a German convoy.
(from ebay.de)
I haven't seen many pictures of this gun in German use so far.
Emmanuel
(from ebay.de)
I haven't seen many pictures of this gun in German use so far.
Emmanuel
Re: 5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
Hello Emmanuel
Special picture , for me also the first time I see a photo of this gun in German service .
On the list from H.Gr.B. (14-03-1944 ) no 5.7 cm PaK 208(r) guns on the Western front .
Regards Jos
Special picture , for me also the first time I see a photo of this gun in German service .
On the list from H.Gr.B. (14-03-1944 ) no 5.7 cm PaK 208(r) guns on the Western front .
Regards Jos
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Re: 5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
Emmanuel, That doesn't have a long enough barrel top be the 57mm atg and the obvious muzzlebrake under the cover makes it seem to me to be a 76.2mm Zis-3 (Feldkanone 288(r)).
Alan
Re: 5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
Hi Alan
That option I have overlooked , but that is a good possiblilty .
The gun shield fits also beter with the 7.62 cm F.K. 288 (r) .
Regards Jos
That option I have overlooked , but that is a good possiblilty .
The gun shield fits also beter with the 7.62 cm F.K. 288 (r) .
Regards Jos
Re: 5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
Alan,
I think you're right. I misjudge the length of the tube and there could be indeed a muzzle brake under the cover.
Thanks.
Emmanuel
I think you're right. I misjudge the length of the tube and there could be indeed a muzzle brake under the cover.
Thanks.
Emmanuel
Re: 5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
5,7 cm ZiS-2 or 7,62cm ZiS-3 without muzzle brake in German service, Eastern Front
....ZiS-2 or ZiS-3 or so? What do You thing?
....ZiS-2 or ZiS-3 or so? What do You thing?
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Re: 5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
Hello!
To compare with:
http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2012-06/ ... is2_11.jpg
Best regards, Aleks
The barrel seems to be too short for ZiS-2Stan P wrote:....ZiS-2 or ZiS-3 or so?
To compare with:
http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2012-06/ ... is2_11.jpg
Best regards, Aleks
Re: 5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
I know that for a too short
...but if it is too thin as 76,2 mm - maybe an optical illusion
Regards
...but if it is too thin as 76,2 mm - maybe an optical illusion
Regards
Re: 5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
According to a German document the Reserve-Grenadier-Battaillon 333 (160. Div.) had two "5 cm [Pak] (r.)" in January 1945, possibly emplaced in bunkers of type 680. Is it known if the 5,7 cm Pak 208 (r) was present in Denmark?
Re: 5,7 cm Pak 208(r)
Could these be two 5.7 cm PaK 208 (r) , photo is from Ebay .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos