17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by schwarzermai » 08 Aug 2015, 21:40

hello Jos, i think these heavy ones are only Heerstruppe - no divisional artillery
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by jopaerya » 09 Aug 2015, 09:02

Thanks Uwe

Try to find some more information on the artillery used in Sicily .

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by schwarzermai » 09 Aug 2015, 10:13

Hello Jos,

I want to improve myself:

between 30.6.1943 and 30.9.1943 the schwere Artillerie-Abteilung (mot.) 557 (17 cm Kanone in Mörserlafette) was part of Artillerie-Regiment (mot) 33 (as II. Abteilung) of the 15. Panzer-Grenadier-Division in Sicily

at 30.9.1943 it were Heerestruppe again

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by jopaerya » 09 Aug 2015, 10:21

That fits perfectly , Uwe

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by Sturm78 » 29 Nov 2015, 13:44

Hi all,

A blurry image from EBay. According to photo caption near Monte Cassino

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by Sturm78 » 03 Apr 2016, 13:54

Hi all,

Two images from Ebay. I think an abandoned gun, probably

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Jul 2016, 11:05

Hi all,

Image taken in June 1945

From Ebay
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Sep 2016, 11:10

Hi all,

v60pih member posted this image here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=435

The gun seems a 17cm K18 but the wheels....seems to have round holes instead of triangular holes as it is standard in the 17cm K18 .... :? :?

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by Manuferey » 28 Sep 2016, 23:54

Sturm78,

You posted pictures of 21 cm Mrs 18 with 6-hole wheels on 19 Aug 2013 and 27 Feb 2014 on this thread:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 9&start=15

Here are pictures of a 21 cm Mrs 18 carriage (same carriage for the 17 cm K18 as we know) with 6-hole wheels taken at Aberdeen Proving Grounds:
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See also on wikipedia: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... r_18_1.jpg

The tube was sometimes transported on a trailer with 6-hole wheels see here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deckarudo ... otostream/
From the caption: soldier of the 11th Armored Division gazing into the barrel of an abandoned German 250mm [sic- 210 mm] artillery piece found outside of Mayen, Germany on March 10, 1945.

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by Sturm78 » 29 Sep 2016, 11:23

Yes, I've seen some (very few) wartime images of 21cm Mrs 18 howitzers with wheels with six round holes, but never an 17cm K18.

I think this kind of wheels were used towards the end of the war only.

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by tigre » 20 Jan 2017, 20:11

Hello to all :D; seeing the barrel I think the pictures shown this gun.............................

Schwere Artillerie in action.

Source: http://photo.qip.ru/users/nickanorus/41 ... ode=xlarge

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by schwarzermai » 21 Jan 2017, 10:43

Hello Raul, i think these are 21 cm Mörser 18
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by jopaerya » 20 Mar 2017, 10:48

A captured 17 cm , according to the Ebay photocaption Italy . Any idea on the tank or tank primer ?

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by Jon Bailey » 20 Mar 2017, 11:05

Hi Jos,

Certainly looks Italian and the tank looks like a P40 - judging by the tracks, but maybe M13/41.

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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette

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Post by jopaerya » 24 Apr 2017, 09:49

Could this be a 17 cm K 18 ?? it looks that the the soldier on the far left on the barrel has his right foot on a roller
what is typical for the 17 cm K 18 . According to the Ebay caption it should be Italy ( Sicily ) wat fits with a early
placed picture and the info from Uwe .

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