17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
- schwarzermai
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
hello Jos, i think these heavy ones are only Heerstruppe - no divisional artillery
uwe
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Thanks Uwe
Try to find some more information on the artillery used in Sicily .
Regards Jos
Try to find some more information on the artillery used in Sicily .
Regards Jos
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Hello Jos,
I want to improve myself:
between 30.6.1943 and 30.9.1943 the schwere Artillerie-Abteilung (mot.) 557 (17 cm Kanone in Mörserlafette) was part of Artillerie-Regiment (mot) 33 (as II. Abteilung) of the 15. Panzer-Grenadier-Division in Sicily
at 30.9.1943 it were Heerestruppe again
Uwe
I want to improve myself:
between 30.6.1943 and 30.9.1943 the schwere Artillerie-Abteilung (mot.) 557 (17 cm Kanone in Mörserlafette) was part of Artillerie-Regiment (mot) 33 (as II. Abteilung) of the 15. Panzer-Grenadier-Division in Sicily
at 30.9.1943 it were Heerestruppe again
Uwe
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
That fits perfectly , Uwe
Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Hi all,
A blurry image from EBay. According to photo caption near Monte Cassino
Sturm78
A blurry image from EBay. According to photo caption near Monte Cassino
Sturm78
Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Hi all,
Two images from Ebay. I think an abandoned gun, probably
Sturm78
Two images from Ebay. I think an abandoned gun, probably
Sturm78
Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Hi all,
v60pih member posted this image here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=435
The gun seems a 17cm K18 but the wheels....seems to have round holes instead of triangular holes as it is standard in the 17cm K18 ....
Sturm78
v60pih member posted this image here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=435
The gun seems a 17cm K18 but the wheels....seems to have round holes instead of triangular holes as it is standard in the 17cm K18 ....
Sturm78
Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Sturm78,
You posted pictures of 21 cm Mrs 18 with 6-hole wheels on 19 Aug 2013 and 27 Feb 2014 on this thread:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 9&start=15
Here are pictures of a 21 cm Mrs 18 carriage (same carriage for the 17 cm K18 as we know) with 6-hole wheels taken at Aberdeen Proving Grounds: See also on wikipedia: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... r_18_1.jpg
The tube was sometimes transported on a trailer with 6-hole wheels see here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deckarudo ... otostream/
From the caption: soldier of the 11th Armored Division gazing into the barrel of an abandoned German 250mm [sic- 210 mm] artillery piece found outside of Mayen, Germany on March 10, 1945.
Emmanuel
You posted pictures of 21 cm Mrs 18 with 6-hole wheels on 19 Aug 2013 and 27 Feb 2014 on this thread:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 9&start=15
Here are pictures of a 21 cm Mrs 18 carriage (same carriage for the 17 cm K18 as we know) with 6-hole wheels taken at Aberdeen Proving Grounds: See also on wikipedia: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... r_18_1.jpg
The tube was sometimes transported on a trailer with 6-hole wheels see here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deckarudo ... otostream/
From the caption: soldier of the 11th Armored Division gazing into the barrel of an abandoned German 250mm [sic- 210 mm] artillery piece found outside of Mayen, Germany on March 10, 1945.
Emmanuel
Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Yes, I've seen some (very few) wartime images of 21cm Mrs 18 howitzers with wheels with six round holes, but never an 17cm K18.
I think this kind of wheels were used towards the end of the war only.
Regards Sturm78
I think this kind of wheels were used towards the end of the war only.
Regards Sturm78
Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Hello to all ; seeing the barrel I think the pictures shown this gun.............................
Schwere Artillerie in action.
Source: http://photo.qip.ru/users/nickanorus/41 ... ode=xlarge
Cheers. Raúl M .
Schwere Artillerie in action.
Source: http://photo.qip.ru/users/nickanorus/41 ... ode=xlarge
Cheers. Raúl M .
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Hello Raul, i think these are 21 cm Mörser 18
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
A captured 17 cm , according to the Ebay photocaption Italy . Any idea on the tank or tank primer ?
Regards Jos
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Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Hi Jos,
Certainly looks Italian and the tank looks like a P40 - judging by the tracks, but maybe M13/41.
Jon
Certainly looks Italian and the tank looks like a P40 - judging by the tracks, but maybe M13/41.
Jon
Re: 17 cm K 18 in Mörserlafette
Could this be a 17 cm K 18 ?? it looks that the the soldier on the far left on the barrel has his right foot on a roller
what is typical for the 17 cm K 18 . According to the Ebay caption it should be Italy ( Sicily ) wat fits with a early
placed picture and the info from Uwe .
Regards Jos
what is typical for the 17 cm K 18 . According to the Ebay caption it should be Italy ( Sicily ) wat fits with a early
placed picture and the info from Uwe .
Regards Jos