new serie 600 felmabig

[moonraker]

hello,
at the request of jos post I put themselves on the series of bunker SPECIAL feldmabig 600.I never speak of this discovery still a forum public.here how it happened !
After several trips in Brittany, sector "Pontrieux, aber-warc'h crozon" and as a result of the measurement of hundreds of bunker we have made an incredible discovery document with proof of German support .. I have set out our survey my friends and jos hans and our group is our conclusion of all! This is the search for our group and not just me!

1/during the war the 17 fest pioneer to innovate by building works in the 600 series in 40 cm thick wall.
2/the bunker is constructed as an ST, steel beam and sheet metal in the toit.les walls are equipped with rebar and above the doors on steel beams.
3/very important for the germans is the functions of bunker : MG bunkers or Beobachtung or LAG or PAK.
4/for each type must understand that finding has the room or lodge soldiers or kampfraum which is similar but not complete since the bunker was a very mild type.allways height = 2.30m as ST.
5/Here are the types that have been built that we managed to find time for that.
serie feld : 630,627,668,625,642 and 677
6/
ex find : 668 feld x 15-20
ex find: 630 feld small x 3-4
ex find: 630 feld big x 4
ex find: 627 feld x 4
ex find: 625 feld x 5

7/I can forget former, many are found, measure and not listed.note on plan only VF ...

[jopaerya]

Thanks Etienne

Not all bunkers are exact copy's of the St bunkers but the functions are the same , the 668
copy is a exact kopy also the schartenstand look a lot like the Regelbau .
The BeFra or FraBe team found also some German information on these type's in the report
of the Festung Brest there is a bauplan with St bunker that were build in Vf .
I personel think that these Vf types were build and planned late in the war because the report
is from early 1944 and the original 668 was given free ( 4 Ergänzung ) on 12-07-1943 .
All these bunker are only found in a part of Bretagne .

Regards Jos

[moonraker]

document germans !!

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bauprogram Uboot-base:

kleinsunterstand = 668 feld : only the 668 and 667 in the 600 series is named kleinsunterstand and kleinschartenstand.



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[moonraker]

Thanks Etienne

Not all bunkers are exact copy's of the St bunkers but the functions are the same , the 668
copy is a exact kopy also the schartenstand look a lot like the Regelbau .
The BeFra or FraBe team found also some German information on these type's in the report
of the Festung Brest there is a bauplan with St bunker that were build in Vf .
I personel think that these Vf types were build and planned late in the war because the report
is from early 1944 and the original 668 was given free ( 4 Ergänzung ) on 12-07-1943 .
All these bunker are only found in a part of Bretagne .

Regards Jos

yes jos, the kampfraum is often very similar extent. but tell you truth when you said that the function is the most important.

[dirk Peeters]

It was a pleasure for me that Etienne have found this series on our trips
me i haven t seen
in that period i often called them VF but now we ve already done a beautifull studie of it
I hope that others have found them also and now maybe we can identify other bunkers here
One indication you see imideately
altough the walls are 40 cm the ceiling is made with IPM irons ans steel plates like a St bunker
Dirk

[moonraker]

draiwing 668

for the AV35 the 668 feld is a comandot post.



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668feld AV8



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[moonraker]

625 feld AV 05


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625 feld AV8


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625 feld MO 05



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kampfraum: similair a 625 and 680 st.



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[dirk Peeters]

here is one found in Pointe de l Espagnol (sector Cr )

actually there are two of them covering the rads leading to the point
Dirk

[dirk Peeters]

here an 627 Felsmassig de StP Av 37
the observationroom was covered with a Panzer'platte (like its big brother the 627)

Dirk

[moonraker]

630 feld small WN RA 675 pont es ommès



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630 feld small wn RA 672 ville es sauvè (photo alban giscar)



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630 feld small wn LA 350 sable d'or
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platte stell



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years of build for jos



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[jbb20p7]

Hello

Dirk and Etienne, congratulation for your work and these discoveries. Nice plans and pictures also

Bye
JB

[jopaerya]

Hello

Here some picture's from M 270 from Cr 21 with there "627Vf" version with plate .

Regards Jos

[moonraker]

630 feld big model with HES



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exemplair to find :

wn PO 17 la palus x 1
wn PO 35 loguivy sur mer x 1

[TH]

Was there a shortage of concrete in the area? Otherwise I don't see why they would have build bunkers with 40 cm walls, but still use the steel parts.

[moonraker]

Was there a shortage of concrete in the area? Otherwise I don't see why they would have build bunkers with 40 cm walls, but still use the steel parts.

hello th,
no shortage of concrete in my opinion. speed of construction, similar function and greater reduction of steel. rundsthal and plate type.