The mother of all Tobruks
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Re: The mother of all Tobruks
but we have the name and the date 19 12 42
Somebody has the whole document o r at least the bottom of the page ?
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Very nice drawings
Thank you Dirk and off course a big thanks to Jos as well
But as I read the overview, it clearly defines the "Ringstand in Flügelmauer" as being something different than the Bauform 58c?! Or is that just me?
But nice to see the term "Ringstand" used in relation the the "Offener Beobachter"
Brgds Tønnes
Thank you Dirk and off course a big thanks to Jos as well
But as I read the overview, it clearly defines the "Ringstand in Flügelmauer" as being something different than the Bauform 58c?! Or is that just me?
But nice to see the term "Ringstand" used in relation the the "Offener Beobachter"
Brgds Tønnes
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Hi Tønnes
I think the "Offener Beobachter" is a function not a type name .
Ringstand and Tobruk are collective names , most Tobruks are for light
weapons and devices and the Ringstand name was even used for 15.2 cm guns .
Regards Jos
I think the "Offener Beobachter" is a function not a type name .
Ringstand and Tobruk are collective names , most Tobruks are for light
weapons and devices and the Ringstand name was even used for 15.2 cm guns .
Regards Jos
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Helleo
Here is a some more photos of an Italian and a Greek Tobruk emplacement, from Forteca Magazine #24-25.
Greetings
Lars
Here is a some more photos of an Italian and a Greek Tobruk emplacement, from Forteca Magazine #24-25.
Greetings
Lars
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Hi Lars,
Nice pictures, thanks for sharing.
bregds
SES
Nice pictures, thanks for sharing.
bregds
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Re: The mother of all Tobruks
Very nice scale drawings of Tobruks meant above are in this fantastic book:
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Not Greek - Yugoslavian (Rupnik line).Lars Bertelsen wrote:Italian and a Greek Tobruk emplacement,
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I´ve found a very nice photo of tobrukstand witj platform for MG...
http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=138728
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http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=138728
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Re: The mother of all Tobruks
it s an Ic 116
the place La grand Vey (Utah beach)
This one still exists
Dirk
the place La grand Vey (Utah beach)
This one still exists
Dirk
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Hi guys,
here some nice info, related to the development of the tobruk as the replacement of the VF 3..
3Mai'42, from festungpionierkommandeur XVIII, after a inspectiontrip by Gen. d. pion. u. fest. Jacob
gr, Tim
here some nice info, related to the development of the tobruk as the replacement of the VF 3..
3Mai'42, from festungpionierkommandeur XVIII, after a inspectiontrip by Gen. d. pion. u. fest. Jacob
gr, Tim
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very nice info
Thanks
Thanks
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needles to say,
the big tekst should be readed first
the big tekst should be readed first
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Re: The mother of all Tobruks
Another German document calling the Ringstand "Tobruk-Stand", appendix to a report dated 6.5.1943.
Jens
Jens
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Thanks Jens
Great drawing
Great drawing
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Very interesting. "Missing link" between VF8 and Rs58?