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M 272

Post by jopaerya » 22 Mar 2012 14:35

Hello All

The M 272 is one of the most build naval gun bunkers in the A.W. , in most of the M 272
that I have visit I did not seen these extra enlarged extra rooms for cooling water and a generator .
These are the one's I have seen and visit so far who don't have the extra rooms are =

M.K.B. Heerenduin
M.K.B. Vasouy
M.K.B. Lonques
M.K.B. Brommy
M.K.B. La Couarde
M.K.B. La Coubre

Any idea or picture's of the other one's in Norway , Denmark and France ??

Plans = Jens Andersen

Regards Jos
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Re: M 272

Post by SES » 23 Mar 2012 09:52

HI Jos,
To the best of my recollection the M 272s in 2/MAA 509 at the Skaw do not have the small rooms to the left and right of the entrance and I have always interpreted the large rooms to be for ammo. But they do have tube outlets on both sides of the entrance.
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Re: M 272

Post by moonraker » 23 Mar 2012 13:58

hi jos,
possible the bunker a nèville sur mer !! the M272 is only ?? but destroy !!

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Re: M 272

Post by jopaerya » 23 Mar 2012 15:26

Thanks Friends

Maybe the M 272 at the "Sudwall" had those enlarged niches , found a drawing
of a M 272 in the book Sudwall from A.C. from M.K.B. Vogelberg with these niches .

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Re: M 272

Post by TH » 23 Mar 2012 17:35

Found one photo of the inside of a M 272 at Skagen and another one of a M 272 at Løkken online. Both don't have the niches, so probably none of the eight M 272 in Denmark were built with them.

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Re: M 272

Post by stril » 23 Mar 2012 18:14

SES ? your markings on the picture ? :lol:
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Re: M 272

Post by TH » 23 Mar 2012 18:22

Haha, that's what I thought too. Maybe SES picked up a new hobby. :lol:

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Re: M 272

Post by SES » 23 Mar 2012 18:34

Yes, I do guided tours on that beach and I got my own personal bunker:
http://www.skagen-tourist.dk/danmark/da ... allerUrl=1

No it is the "artwork" of some painters that went rampant on the bunkers. Actually it says:" LYS SES BEDST I" and on the next bunker:"MØRKE". Translated to the deep philosophical thought:"Light is seen most easily in the dark".
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Re: M 272

Post by TUS » 23 Mar 2012 19:50

Good evening guys

I can confirm that the eight M272 build in Denmark do not have the extra rooms.

Brgds Tønnes

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Re: M 272

Post by lcw » 24 Mar 2012 00:01

Jos,
The M 272s in the M.S.B. Mauvanne, Toulon, have the small niches.
http://bunkersite.com/locations/france/ ... uvanne.php

I can not determine my other found M 272s:
- Gréville, Castel Vendon
http://bunkersite.com/locations/france/ ... castel.php
- Néville sur Mer
http://bunkersite.com/locations/france/ ... e-m272.php
- east bank Dieppe, the ruins.
http://bunkersite.com/locations/france/ ... e-east.php

Lenco,

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Re: M 272

Post by jopaerya » 24 Mar 2012 18:57

Bedankt Lenco

Still strange all original drawings have the large niches and all the M 272 we know did not have them ???

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Re: M 272

Post by dirk Peeters » 26 Mar 2012 18:46

the dates are very late on the plans with the graeter niches... that must be an alteration i think of the old model

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Re: M 272

Post by S_haule » 27 Mar 2012 07:30

Dear Friends,

M272 built in Batterie Petrolhafen in Le Havre seems to have small nishes according to an allied repport (Ground checking Notes dated february 1945)

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Sébastien

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Re: M 272

Post by jopaerya » 29 Mar 2012 07:46

Thanks Sébastien

Any idea's on the M 272 in the Sudwall beside Mauvanne ??

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Re: M 272

Post by 20P7 » 31 Mar 2012 15:39

Hello Jos,

the drawing in AC's book about the naval batteries along the Südwall is correct. Please find attached a picture of the backside of the most eastern of the four M 272 of MKB Vogelsberg with the exhaust pipes to both sides of the exit.

Regards

Daniel
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