Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

[AVV]

think the first photo is a 10 cm GebH 16

I also thought about it as a variant, still the barrel seems too short.

Best regards, Aleks

[peeved]

Maybe Cannone da 305/40 DS for the big Italian.

Markus

[Manuferey]

I think that the big Italian gun is a 254 mm (10 inches) Italian naval gun on a De Stefano carriage.

Emmanuel

[Sturm78]

Thanks to all for your help.

About the images:

Image 1: I do not think 10cm Skoda M16 mountain howitzer. The shell in the soldier hands seems 75mm or so
Image 2: Thanks for your help, ludvig.
Image 3: italian indeed, but I do not the exact model: 305mm, 254mm, .....

Sturm78

[jopaerya]

Hello All

According to te book "Riesengeschutze und schwere Brummer einst und jetzt" from Lusar
the large gun is a 25.4 cm Schiffskanone in Fahrlafette . The 25.4 cm L/40 gun should be
from the Emanuele Filiberto class .

Regards Jos

[peeved]

Franz Kosar in Schwere Geschütze und Eisenbahngeschütze OTOH has a quite similar gun as 305/40 DS and another as 254/40 DS; Judging by the photos at least one of the calibre lengths is incorrect; Kosar's 254/40 appears appreciably longer than 305/40 from my perspective.

Markus

[jopaerya]

Here a few other options from Wikipedia

At present, these weapons are known to mount the type of De Stefano:
- 8-inch naval gun: Cannone da 203/45 DS
- 10 inch naval gun: Cannone da 254/40 DS
- 12-inch naval gun: Cannone da 305/40 DS
- 12-inch naval gun: Cannone da 305/46 DS
- 210 mm mortar d / 8: Mortaio da 210 / 8 DS
- 305 mm mortar d / 8: 305/17 Mortaio da DS
- 305 mm howitzers D/17: Obice da 305/17 DS

Regards Jos

[veviloss]

Hi my friends

Gun in photo 170745559433h.jpg look a lot like the 7,5cm Mountain Gun L/15 vz.1914 Skoda. Here some photos from Lezany Museum

Dimitris Lampaditis
Athens, Greece

[peeved]

According to Kosar there also was a 203/40 DS in addition to the 203/45.

Markus

[Manuferey]

Franz Kosar in Schwere Geschütze und Eisenbahngeschütze OTOH has a quite similar gun as 305/40 DS and another as 254/40 DS; Judging by the photos at least one of the calibre lengths is incorrect; Kosar's 254/40 appears appreciably longer than 305/40 from my perspective.

Markus

Markus,

You've convinced me with Kosar's pictures: it is not a 254/40 and looks quite similar to the 305/40 indeed.

Emmanuel

[peeved]

Hi Emmanuel,

There is still the slight problem that what Kosar IDs as a 305, Lusar says is a 254. There appears to be the chance that e.g. M 89 and 97 254s looked different from each other or that the Italians slapped naval architecture not mentioned on this thread on the DS mounts.

Markus

[peeved]

The 254/40 in Kosar's photo appears identical to Emanuele Filiberto's guns at http://www.cityofart.net/bship/rn_st_bon.html . Since the name vessel of the class was launched in 1897 maybe the 254 in the shot is a Model 97.

Markus

[peeved]

Since the Big Italian in the eBay photo looks like a multi-hoop built-up gun considerably shorter than the 254/40 Model 1897 in Kosar's photo (and shorter than expected for a 305/40) I'm moderately certain that it is an older 254 mm, maybe the Model 1889 Kosar mentioned. Note the similarity in barrel construction to this ca. 1885 vintage 10-inch B.L. Gun at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977224@N06/2154784926/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977224@N06/2154786950/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977224@N06/2153995725/

Markus

[peeved]

More Austro-Hungarian shots of that 254 mm Model? on De Stefano mount. Photos from exp. eBay.de auction http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 1051478238 and http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0999910864

Markus

[peeved]

Photos from exp. eBay.de auction http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 1051478238 and http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0999911602

Markus