Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by AVV » 26 Mar 2012 13:56

Clive Mortimore wrote: think the first photo is a 10 cm GebH 16

I also thought about it as a variant, still the barrel seems too short. :?

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by peeved » 26 Mar 2012 16:34

Maybe Cannone da 305/40 DS for the big Italian.

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by Manuferey » 26 Mar 2012 22:50

I think that the big Italian gun is a 254 mm (10 inches) Italian naval gun on a De Stefano carriage. :?

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by Sturm78 » 27 Mar 2012 11:43

Thanks to all for your help.

About the images:

Image 1: I do not think 10cm Skoda M16 mountain howitzer. The shell in the soldier hands seems 75mm or so
Image 2: Thanks for your help, ludvig.
Image 3: italian indeed, but I do not the exact model: 305mm, 254mm, ..... :?

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by jopaerya » 27 Mar 2012 15:16

Hello All

According to te book "Riesengeschutze und schwere Brummer einst und jetzt" from Lusar
the large gun is a 25.4 cm Schiffskanone in Fahrlafette . The 25.4 cm L/40 gun should be
from the Emanuele Filiberto class .

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by peeved » 27 Mar 2012 17:43

Franz Kosar in Schwere Geschütze und Eisenbahngeschütze OTOH has a quite similar gun as 305/40 DS and another as 254/40 DS; Judging by the photos at least one of the calibre lengths is incorrect; Kosar's 254/40 appears appreciably longer than 305/40 from my perspective.

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by jopaerya » 27 Mar 2012 20:33

Here a few other options from Wikipedia

At present, these weapons are known to mount the type of De Stefano:
- 8-inch naval gun: Cannone da 203/45 DS
- 10 inch naval gun: Cannone da 254/40 DS
- 12-inch naval gun: Cannone da 305/40 DS
- 12-inch naval gun: Cannone da 305/46 DS
- 210 mm mortar d / 8: Mortaio da 210 / 8 DS
- 305 mm mortar d / 8: 305/17 Mortaio da DS
- 305 mm howitzers D/17: Obice da 305/17 DS

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by veviloss » 27 Mar 2012 20:35

Hi my friends

Gun in photo 170745559433h.jpg look a lot like the 7,5cm Mountain Gun L/15 vz.1914 Skoda. Here some photos from Lezany Museum

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by peeved » 27 Mar 2012 21:21

According to Kosar there also was a 203/40 DS in addition to the 203/45.

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by Manuferey » 28 Mar 2012 02:02

peeved wrote:Franz Kosar in Schwere Geschütze und Eisenbahngeschütze OTOH has a quite similar gun as 305/40 DS and another as 254/40 DS; Judging by the photos at least one of the calibre lengths is incorrect; Kosar's 254/40 appears appreciably longer than 305/40 from my perspective.

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Markus,

You've convinced me with Kosar's pictures: it is not a 254/40 and looks quite similar to the 305/40 indeed.

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by peeved » 28 Mar 2012 06:25

Hi Emmanuel,

There is still the slight problem that what Kosar IDs as a 305, Lusar says is a 254. There appears to be the chance that e.g. M 89 and 97 254s looked different from each other or that the Italians slapped naval architecture not mentioned on this thread on the DS mounts.

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by peeved » 28 Mar 2012 20:55

The 254/40 in Kosar's photo appears identical to Emanuele Filiberto's guns at http://www.cityofart.net/bship/rn_st_bon.html . Since the name vessel of the class was launched in 1897 maybe the 254 in the shot is a Model 97.

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by peeved » 29 Mar 2012 08:38

Since the Big Italian in the eBay photo looks like a multi-hoop built-up gun considerably shorter than the 254/40 Model 1897 in Kosar's photo (and shorter than expected for a 305/40) I'm moderately certain that it is an older 254 mm, maybe the Model 1889 Kosar mentioned. Note the similarity in barrel construction to this ca. 1885 vintage 10-inch B.L. Gun at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977224@N06/2154784926/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977224@N06/2154786950/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977224@N06/2153995725/

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Re: Austro-Hungarian artillery photos

Post by peeved » 29 Jan 2013 12:40

More Austro-Hungarian shots of that 254 mm Model? on De Stefano mount. Photos from exp. eBay.de auction http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 1051478238 and http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0999910864

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