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Unknown cupola

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Post by TUS » 07 Apr 2012, 22:10

Found this on a YouTube movie depicting German installations. Anyone seen this kind of Kleinsglocken before?

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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 07 Apr 2012, 22:19

Hi TUS,

i think it was used in LVZ.

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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by TUS » 07 Apr 2012, 22:51

Very nice Andrzej :D

Thanks a million. Do you have any other info on this one?
Fits with the independent line of armoured parts used at the LVZ and what an interesting design.
Thanks again.

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Post by AvB » 07 Apr 2012, 23:39

Nice! Looks quite thick too!

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 08 Apr 2012, 04:22

This cupola comes from LVZ: here is a source book written by M.Buren+color photo of one which still exists!
(sorry don't have a source of color photo)
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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by TUS » 08 Apr 2012, 18:51

Thanks

That's where I have seen this drawing! Always turn to Bettinger & Büren when in doubt! :D

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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 08 Apr 2012, 19:38

Hi Andrew

Please could you explain what LVZ is?

Thanks

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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by jopaerya » 08 Apr 2012, 20:49

Hi Clive

LVZ means Luftverteidigungszone West ( flakdefences ) and was a build behind the Westwall .

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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 08 Apr 2012, 23:40

Thanks Jos
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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 08 Apr 2012, 23:56

Just like Jos wrote: it was kind of seocnd line of defence with it's main purpose of air-defence consisting of Flak emplacements.
Below some relics:
http://westwall.elvamie.nl/de/karten/lvz.html
http://www.westwall.mynetcologne.de/ott ... nberg.html

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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 09 Apr 2012, 00:28

Cheers Andrew

You lot are slowly turning me into a bunker fan :D I only joined this forum because of the high level of artillery information :D :D

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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 09 Apr 2012, 13:53

Clive Mortimore wrote:Cheers Andrew

You lot are slowly turning me into a bunker fan :D I only joined this forum because of the high level of artillery information :D :D

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Cheers Clive,

I'm happy to hear that :D
some years ago-just before joining AHF I was focused on tanks. This was till the moment when saw first bunkers with tank turrets (photos of: Erik Ettrup!)-this mix of steel and concrete turned me into different ways.
Today is more concrete than a steel :lol:

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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by HFK » 09 Apr 2012, 15:22

Hello, photo #1 is appropriate for this weekend. It reminds me of a half buried easter egg.
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Re: Unknown cupola

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Post by jopaerya » 10 Apr 2012, 15:36

Hello All

In the book of Westwall , this turret should be from origin Czech any idea on the type of turret ??

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 10 Apr 2012, 18:06

jopaerya wrote:Hello All

In the book of Westwall , this turret should be from origin Czech any idea on the type of turret ??

Regards Jos
I browsed Czech Denksrchrift but no success so far, even Pionier evaluations on captured Czech bunkers haven't given any answer... Mayby it's Czech experimental cupola?
Worth of note: first photo in this thread comes from film/newsreel-it was extracted from propaganda film about Westwall made on Tubpl Hillersleben.

Could this be that captured Czech cupola has no holes which were cuted by Germans?

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