Ile de Ré Kora Karola Bttr

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Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by dirk Peeters » 30 Aug 2012 12:54

hello all
I m looking for documents of this bttr (StP Ro 425 and Ro 429)
ayone has data when the tower is constructed
Does the bunkers for the big guns exist of two separate bunkers ? etc
Not looking for pictures
I ve visited all by myself
But a few questions remain
Later i ll gonna design the bunkers and show thge plans
I can already say
Not one plan of the tower is good
All known to me are full of errors
also looking for interior pictures of the many 501 there ... They are starnge in many ways

Dirk

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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by jopaerya » 30 Aug 2012 13:22

Hi Dirk

A lot of questions in one post

(1) date of constuction of the turret = there is in the S 497 a date 19-03-44 , don't know if it's original
(2) bunker for turret is two bunkers = yes , the S 473 and the S 483 , on Ile de Groix only the turret was
build with the ammorooms . A other prove is the bunkernumber Ro 429 / 01 u 02 and 03 u 04

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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by jopaerya » 30 Aug 2012 14:03

Hi again Dirk

The real name of the M.K.B. was Ars and not Karola , that was the name of the Stp.
found some proof the M.K.B. Ars was in building proces in 12-1943 , so the 19-03-1944
inside the S 497 could be real .

Plan = Lenco van der Weel

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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by dirk Peeters » 30 Aug 2012 14:19

thanks Jos
other new topics for these area (Kora ars karola)

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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by jopaerya » 30 Aug 2012 19:44

Hi Dirk

M.K.B. Ars on 30-01-1944 with the first twin turret fire ready .

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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by JKernwerk » 30 Aug 2012 21:24

Hi Dirk,
The 501's are strange indeed.
But nice!
WHat strange things did you found besides the chimneypipe of the stove and the thinner roof for the periscope?
JK

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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by dirk Peeters » 31 Aug 2012 15:33

just wait for the article ok . I have to keep something new ok ?
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Post by JKernwerk » 31 Aug 2012 16:38

dirk Peeters wrote:just wait for the article ok . I have to keep something new ok ?
Drk
I will wait.......if you need any help.....just ask!
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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by JKernwerk » 31 Aug 2012 16:44

And Lenco,
The name of the Battery is M.K.B. Ars but the complex has another name.
In the PdC it's the same, for instance the Battery Todt is Stp.166 Saitenspiel.
This works in more places in the A.W.
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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by AvB » 31 Aug 2012 17:17

Lenco isn't posting here anything ;) Or are you referring to the website?

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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by jopaerya » 27 Mar 2017 08:18

Two picture's from the book Atlantikwall 1943-44 from the S 473 / S 483 in buildingphase .

Regards Jos
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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by juestr » 28 Mar 2017 18:11

pictures particulary interesting for me since I worked during the last weeks intensively for all details of these two heavy cruiser turrets and their bunkers.

Are there any more informations in the book - and which book exactly?

I totally agree with Dirk that all plans known are full of mistakes and both bunkers are very different in details

Gruss
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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by jopaerya » 28 Mar 2017 18:42

Hello Jürgen

The book is the second book of Atlantikwall 1942-44 from Martin Stahlberg ,
far as I there are no other picture's of M.K.B. Ars in both books .

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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by moonraker » 28 Mar 2017 20:46

hello,

whoooo nice pictures buildingphase. :thumbsup: for me is the it is the well guns in middle.

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Re: Ile deKora Karola Bttr

Post by jopaerya » 29 Mar 2017 08:34

Hi Jürgen

The same problem with the B. Grognon viewtopic.php?f=70&t=226862&hilit=grognon

Regards Jos

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