Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by jopaerya » 11 Dec 2012, 22:55

Hi Erwann

You are right , sorry a typo . The 634 could be build on the lock , it's a good idea .

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Post by hakobordeaux » 12 Dec 2012, 19:39

Where did u find a regelbau 634 ?? Have u got a document talking about this ?? I only know a "6 shartenturm" but no mention of a regular type ...

Do you think that there are only 17 bunker 677 instead of 18 ...?

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by Richard Drew » 12 Dec 2012, 22:25

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That is what Bordeaux looked like on Sunday morning at about 10am. We did find a bunker just north of the dock and the air-raid shelter and nothing else. We did try to see Bo01 but there was a car on fire and several unsavory characters around, so we left.

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by jopaerya » 13 Dec 2012, 09:03

Hello Erwann

My quistion was a open one , so if you say 18 x 677 oke . For my document with the 6-Schartenturm
you can read it should be build on poles so the option on the lockbunker is not a good one , so it must
be build in a bunker so the 634 is my assumption . But also on the document a possiblity to build the
6 Schartenturm in a "Feldmassig or Behelfsmassig" bunker .

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by hakobordeaux » 15 Dec 2012, 16:51

So first of all, what do we know ...
Bo42/2 >> 668
Bo42/3 >> Munibunker >> 674
Bo 42/4 >> MannshaftBunker
Bo42/5 >> 6 shartenturm
Bo42/13 >> mannshaftbunker + munibunker ! >> we understand that at least two bunkers belongs to this location ! So we can conclude that I to XVIII correspond to each fire position

So this is my proposition ...

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So the 6 shartenturm is here ...

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by Eax-E » 15 Dec 2012, 17:05

Hello hakoboydeaux
Nice sinthesis work.
Maybe it lacks 1 or 2 casemates because with your suggestion all the city is well defended exept one side.
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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by hakobordeaux » 15 Dec 2012, 17:43

Yes ... i know it ! It is for sure a failure in the system !! Perhaps another building is missingg ... or not ??!
Please have a look in this photo .. we can see that "lager Bacalan" is very closed ti the antitank ditch ... Perhaps an explaination ???

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The same place in 1945 ...

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by jopaerya » 15 Dec 2012, 17:48

Great drawing Erwann

Your option for the 6-Schartenturm should fit realy nice 8O 8O 8O ,
this Stp. is very special so may gunbunker in such a small area looks a
little bit like the gundefence at Stp.Gr Scheveningen with 625 and 625B

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by hakobordeaux » 15 Dec 2012, 18:01

Just wonderful !! This is another photo where the 677/5 is very better seen ... Thank you so much "EAX-E" for your assistance !
The gun fired on the other way !!

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by hakobordeaux » 15 Dec 2012, 21:49

hakobordeaux wrote:Just wonderful !! This is another photo where the 677/5 is very better seen ... Thank you so much "EAX-E" for your assistance !
The gun fired on the other way !!

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I have a little doubt ??!!.....What is your opinion about the shooting direction ???!! The bunker seems to shoot in the other way ??? isn't it ??

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by hakobordeaux » 15 Dec 2012, 22:04

Another one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a 19th bunker 677 !!! 8O

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by jopaerya » 16 Dec 2012, 12:03

Hello Erwann

It getting bigger and bigger , great work .

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by hakobordeaux » 16 Dec 2012, 15:39

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by dterrier » 10 Jan 2013, 09:15

Hello,

Hereby a picture of a R677 and ??? from SHM. Where is it taken????

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Grtz,

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Re: Bordeaux bunkers 667 , 668 aso

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Post by hakobordeaux » 04 May 2013, 23:33

Bo2 wrote:Bonsoir

Jos, if you speak about AWMR page 441, for the upper left, see at :
F4 5050 002 Bo__ Atelier PAB.jpg
It's an old plan that I had made, it's n°4,5,6 . Now I think that 3,4,6, are 668, but...

For the right photo, it's one of the twice 677 who was between hangar 18 and 19 at the end of now cours Edouard vaillant.

JF
In facts, the bunkers are french bunkers !! They have been built by the Harbour authorities in 1944 !
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