Italian AA Guns

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Dili » 18 Sep 2019 00:13

More than 100 groups CA(contraerei) . I'll be releasing a Mediterranean Mod for a game called War in Pacific AE, hope in begin of next year and it will be possible to share a list then.


If you can read Italian this the book to have: Le artiglierie del regio esercito nella seconda guerra mondiale, Filippo Cappellano

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 18 Feb 2020 23:24

Hi all,

An image from Ebay: I think an 75mm Cannone da 75-27 CK AA gun on a rare fire platform trailer. I suppose only a prototype of 1920s or 1930s....

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 05 Apr 2020 11:55

Hi all,

I need help with this Italian AA gun. Somebody ?

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Manuferey » 05 Apr 2020 18:01

I think it is a 76/45 Ansaldo-Schneider.

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 06 Apr 2020 14:00

Thanks, Emmanuel

I think probably you are right

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 13 Apr 2020 20:37

Hi all,

Any idea about these SP AA guns ?

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Re: Italian AA Guns

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Manuferey » 16 Apr 2020 12:16

The gun does not look like a 75/27 to me.

I think it is a 77/28 instead, i.e. a Skoda gun used in WW1 by Austria-Hungary as the 8cm Luftfahrzeugabwehr-Kanone M.5/8 M.P.

It would make the pictures post-WW1.

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Apr 2020 17:59

Karlik wrote
https://armoredcars-ww-one.blogspot.com ... lo-su.html
Emmanuel wrote
The gun does not look like a 75/27 to me.

I think it is a 77/28 instead, i.e. a Skoda gun used in WW1 by Austria-Hungary as the 8cm Luftfahrzeugabwehr-Kanone M.5/8 M.P.

It would make the pictures post-WW1.
Ummhhh...I agree with Karlik. I think 72/27 AV

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Manuferey » 17 Apr 2020 11:36

You're right. It is a 75/27 AV. I've confused it with the 75/27 CK. :oops:

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by shultz » 11 May 2020 12:48

Sturm78 wrote:
20 Oct 2018 14:55
Hi all,

Any idea about the AA gun on this motorcycle ??

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Hi, the cannon in your photograph is a 20mm Grandi , and it was produced in very few copies towards the end of the second world war.
The "Officine Grandi" are a small company that built the prototypes of the 20 mm Scotti cannons and also small series of the same, before the start of the war.
This however is an original project of the "Officine Grandi" , and i put a new photo taken from the book “Alle origini della Breda” of Curami/Ferrari/Rastelli 2009.
20mm Grandi da ''Alle origini della Breda''.jpg
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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 11 May 2020 13:48

shultz wrote
Hi, the cannon in your photograph is a 20mm Grandi , and it was produced in very few copies towards the end of the second world war.
The "Officine Grandi" are a small company that built the prototypes of the 20 mm Scotti cannons and also small series of the same, before the start of the war.
This however is an original project of the "Officine Grandi" , and i put a new photo taken from the book “Alle origini della Breda” of Curami/Ferrari/Rastelli 2009.
Thank you for your help, shultz :)
The carriage seems different but the gun match...I have never heard of this cannon... 8O

It seems that the Italians used many models of 20mm AA cannons during the War

Breda Mod.1935
Scotti-Isotta Franschini
Oerlikon
Solothurn
Grandi

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by shultz » 11 May 2020 16:13

Sturm78 wrote:
11 May 2020 13:48
shultz wrote
Hi, the cannon in your photograph is a 20mm Grandi , and it was produced in very few copies towards the end of the second world war.
The "Officine Grandi" are a small company that built the prototypes of the 20 mm Scotti cannons and also small series of the same, before the start of the war.
This however is an original project of the "Officine Grandi" , and i put a new photo taken from the book “Alle origini della Breda” of Curami/Ferrari/Rastelli 2009.
Thank you for your help, shultz :)
The carriage seems different but the gun match...I have never heard of this cannon... 8O

It seems that the Italians used many models of 20mm AA cannons during the War

Breda Mod.1935
Scotti-Isotta Franschini
Oerlikon
Solothurn
Grandi

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Hi, I think very few of the 20mm Grandi have been produced, these two are the only photos I've seen so far.
However in '44 / '45 northern Italy was practically occupied by the Germans and they will have used them just as they used everything could shoot found in Italian warehouses (the R.S.I. in fact did not control the arms factories).
After the war, in the early 1950s the "Officine Grandi" produced another fairly similar prototype for a competition of the Italian Air Force, the Mod. 52.
It is now kept in the Museum of Technology in Milan.
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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by shultz » 13 May 2020 21:33

Hi, only recently I realized that this photograph, taken from the book of Cappellano "L'artiglieria contraerei Italiana sino al 1943", portrays the same cannon that appears in a post by Tristan-gereon of 21-2-2013 in " Id. naval guns ”, which had not been identified then.
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and this is the photo of Oliver/Tristan-gereon
MFlak%20Italien.jpg
It is a 20 mm Scotti-Isotta Fraschini twin gun, on a carriage built in 1938 in a few copies for the Regia Aeronautica Italiana (it looks like 50 "complexes", ie carriage complete with 2 guns).
The guns are rotated 90°to the right , the feeding is with the 12-shot strip magazines which are inserted from the top downwards.
Oliver's photo shows an Italian airport used by the Germans and close to a river, probably the Po.
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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by shultz » 14 May 2020 15:27

Hi, I need help clearing up a doubt.
A.A. O.T.O.jpg
Years ago looking for information on 100/43 OTO 1924 I found this photograph on a Spanish site that no longer exists (http://perso.wanadoo.es/marcoconde/arma ... stilla.htm).
The text spoke of the 100/43 and 100/47 mm OTO anti-aircraft guns used for the defense of Mallorca during the Spanish war.
Today in the "Todocoleccion.net" website I found two other photographs of similar cannons but with small differences in the carriage.
The reference is still Mallorca's anti-aircraft defense.
Lote%20de%20minis%203a.jpg
Lote%20de%20minis%208a.jpg
I think they all are 100/43 O.T. 1924 (Odero Terni) but I would like to better identify these photographs.
In various books on the war of Spain I found references to cannons of 100/43 and 100/47 OTO, but never no photos; I am looking for any other photographs of these cannons in Spain, any recent or war images will be welcome.
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