Italian AA Guns

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by fert » 17 Mar 2016 13:42

Sturm78 wrote:
fert wrote
102/35 on Vickers Terni (OTO) mount mod 24
Ummhhh...are you sure? :? I think 102/35 Schneider-Ansaldo 1914-15 gun had two long and one short brake/recuperator cylinders above the barrel....

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Hello Sturm,
you are right, both missing.
here the mod 24, with brake-recuperator clearly visible.
PB120156.JPG
Please note many of the pics from OTO archives are experimental materials.

Could it be a 102/45 as Dili says

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 17 Mar 2016 23:37

fert wrote
Hello Sturm,
you are right, both missing.
here the mod 24, with brake-recuperator clearly visible.

Please note many of the pics from OTO archives are experimental materials.

Could it be a 102/45 as Dili says
Thank you for your answer, fert. :wink:

I am not sure about these guns...76mm Cannone da 76/40 naval guns ??

I think there are many variants of the Cannone da 76/40 gun,,,Mod.1915, Mod.1916, Mod.1917,.....
Does somebody have more information about these variants and its differences?


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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Dili » 18 Mar 2016 10:31

I would say that is an impossible work. They were made from WW1 to mid 30's changing mounts, from purely naval with low elevation to pure AA, to truck mounted, to different mechanisms, and build in various factories where someone would add their bit, plus navy and army arsenals modifying them as their aged. They were more than 1000 guns.

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 19 Mar 2016 14:28

Thanks Dili,...

Can somebody identify this AA gun ??

Sorry, I do not remenber the exact net source..
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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by peeved » 19 Mar 2016 18:40

According to http://www.milistory.net/forum/[la-spez ... t1587.html another naval 76/40 adapted to AA work,

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Mar 2016 12:33

Markus wrote
According to http://www.milistory.net/forum/[la-spez ... t1587.html another naval 76/40 adapted to AA work,
Uummhhh...The recoil system seems very different.... :?

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by peeved » 20 Mar 2016 13:00

Sturm78 wrote:Uummhhh...The recoil system seems very different.... :?
But quite similar to this somewhat incomplete Cannone da 76/40 1897 Mod. 1912: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdQOey47pLU
and this pic: Image

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 20 Mar 2016 15:27

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But quite similar to this somewhat incomplete Cannone da 76/40 1897 Mod. 1912: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdQOey47pLU
I think the gun of Youtube link is this:
I think it is a different model....

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by peeved » 20 Mar 2016 16:51

Or different mounting... According to http://www.anb-online.it/armi/armi-mode ... ione-a-75/ the drawing depicts a Cannone da 76/40 Armstrong 1897-1912 su affusto a.a. con elevazione a 75°.

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 21 Mar 2016 11:31

Thank you, Markus

Well, a last question about italian AA guns. Any idea ?? The barrel seems very long.... 8O

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Dili » 22 Mar 2016 22:32

Well the legend says 76 and 62 maybe an experimental 76/62 gun? Btw the current mainstream naval OTO Breda 76 also has a 62 caliber length.

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by fert » 23 Mar 2016 08:10

Hello,
from what I know, 76/62 was developed in late 50's by the Navy.
I think this is a 90/53 and the very long barrel it's due to the low angle of the photographer.
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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 11 Oct 2017 21:47

Hi all,

I have these two images identified as 102mm Cannone da 102/35 Ansaldo-Schneider guns but I can seee some differencies between them.
The step of the tube is much closer to the braking mechanism in one of them...(see red circle?

Any idea about this ?

I know there were two different models: Ansaldo-Schneider Mod.1914 and Ansaldo-Schneider Mod.1914-15.
What are the differencies between them ?

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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by v60pih » 12 Oct 2017 09:52

Second picture is an autocannone da 102/35 su FIAT 434.
If i'm not wrong only 7 made.
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Re: Italian AA Guns

Post by Sturm78 » 12 Oct 2017 16:19

v60pih wrote
Second picture is an autocannone da 102/35 su FIAT 434.
If i'm not wrong only 7 made.
Thanks, v60pih....but my question was about the differences between the guns of my two images ....both 102/35 guns

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