Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
Hello
Again as with my topic on the Stp Mackensen in De Panne (BE), I'll be starting a new topic on the Stp Von Rundstedt, also in De Panne. Some of the information is already mentioned in other topics on several subjects, therefore sometimes hard to find. I hope to gather all information on the stronghold in this new topic... please join in if you can add to the topic.
As the Stp. Von Rundstedt was unseperatable from the Funkstelle PONY - which was laying partially inside the Stp - I suggest we handle both the Stp and the Funkstelle in this topic. (see also topic: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=190902 ... which got a bit off track due to a discussion about the thickness of a certain wall )
Please add any information, photo's, aerials, ..... thx ahead!!
The reason I started this topic today... I just got hold of some photos which I like to share with you. All photo's date back to the early post-war years, some very shortly after the German retreat noticing the presence of artillery and other stuff. Here we go...
(I still have to check up on the photo's, so anyone who can already provide me with some information... please do. note: after the liberation of De Panne in sept. 44, the region was occupied by allied troops to prevent the Germans from breaking out of the Dunkirk pocket where the Germans remained undefeated untill the surrender of Germany. Therefore some of the artillery could be allied to...)
one of the left behind pieces of artillery
one of the bunkers close to the aglomeration of De Panne. In the background we can see the tower of the villa Orban, so this bunker must have been laying in front of the royal villas. Therefore - noticing the map by Pierrot (see link above, will be posted later) - could this be a variant of a R612??
debris from one of the radars standing in the Stp Von Rundstedt/Funkstelle PONY... could this have been the Wasserman??
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Again as with my topic on the Stp Mackensen in De Panne (BE), I'll be starting a new topic on the Stp Von Rundstedt, also in De Panne. Some of the information is already mentioned in other topics on several subjects, therefore sometimes hard to find. I hope to gather all information on the stronghold in this new topic... please join in if you can add to the topic.
As the Stp. Von Rundstedt was unseperatable from the Funkstelle PONY - which was laying partially inside the Stp - I suggest we handle both the Stp and the Funkstelle in this topic. (see also topic: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=190902 ... which got a bit off track due to a discussion about the thickness of a certain wall )
Please add any information, photo's, aerials, ..... thx ahead!!
The reason I started this topic today... I just got hold of some photos which I like to share with you. All photo's date back to the early post-war years, some very shortly after the German retreat noticing the presence of artillery and other stuff. Here we go...
(I still have to check up on the photo's, so anyone who can already provide me with some information... please do. note: after the liberation of De Panne in sept. 44, the region was occupied by allied troops to prevent the Germans from breaking out of the Dunkirk pocket where the Germans remained undefeated untill the surrender of Germany. Therefore some of the artillery could be allied to...)
one of the left behind pieces of artillery
one of the bunkers close to the aglomeration of De Panne. In the background we can see the tower of the villa Orban, so this bunker must have been laying in front of the royal villas. Therefore - noticing the map by Pierrot (see link above, will be posted later) - could this be a variant of a R612??
debris from one of the radars standing in the Stp Von Rundstedt/Funkstelle PONY... could this have been the Wasserman??
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
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This is actually one of the bunkers of the (real) Stp Von Schlieffen, further upcoast just next to the French border. Shortly after the war the bunker was used to indicate that the first French café (pub) is only 50 metres away, possibly meaning the cafetaria/café of camping du Perroquet... so this bunker could not stand more than 50 metres away from the French border. As it was part of this collection and is such a nice photo I added it already, however it has nothing to do with the Stp Von Rundstedt
still now weapons/artillery expert... but if I'm not mistaken this is something PAK40'ish??
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one of many tunnelentrancesThis is actually one of the bunkers of the (real) Stp Von Schlieffen, further upcoast just next to the French border. Shortly after the war the bunker was used to indicate that the first French café (pub) is only 50 metres away, possibly meaning the cafetaria/café of camping du Perroquet... so this bunker could not stand more than 50 metres away from the French border. As it was part of this collection and is such a nice photo I added it already, however it has nothing to do with the Stp Von Rundstedt
still now weapons/artillery expert... but if I'm not mistaken this is something PAK40'ish??
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one of the OB's with it's canon (I presume) standing outside. Also notice the half sunken guardhouse and another small building in the background. Noticing the position of the guardhouse this OB must have been laying just in front of the bunker locally known Victoriabunker which was a German Cinema/ballroom for off-dutysoldiers (photos will follow)
posing in front of the remains of yet another radar...
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some local guy with Johnny Weissmuler, the original Tarzan, LOL on the carriage of a canonone of the OB's with it's canon (I presume) standing outside. Also notice the half sunken guardhouse and another small building in the background. Noticing the position of the guardhouse this OB must have been laying just in front of the bunker locally known Victoriabunker which was a German Cinema/ballroom for off-dutysoldiers (photos will follow)
posing in front of the remains of yet another radar...
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another tunnelentrance
possibly the most photographed remains of one of the radars as I have already posted some photo's of this same radar in a different topic
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Possibly the Germans blew up some of their own bunkers when retraiting to Dunkirk during the liberation of De Panne, but most of the strategical important bunkers were blown up by the Allied forces shortly after the liberation. As the Germans still held Dunkirk the Allies were afraid that the Germans could still take back the stronghold so the bunkers had to go. Meaning that little bunkers were left to seen and photographed by the locals after the war, so why not pose amongst the scattered debrisanother tunnelentrance
possibly the most photographed remains of one of the radars as I have already posted some photo's of this same radar in a different topic
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the last and least interesting photo's... again posing amongst the scattered debris of blown up bunkers
a bit of destroyed bunkers thread that is...
That's it for now...
Jean
the last and least interesting photo's... again posing amongst the scattered debris of blown up bunkers
a bit of destroyed bunkers thread that is...
That's it for now...
Jean
Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
Hello
Very nice collection of pictures !
The guns must be some 15,5 cm K418 (f).
Bye
Very nice collection of pictures !
The guns must be some 15,5 cm K418 (f).
Bye
Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
Looks like a 5 cm KwK L/60 to me.myt1prod wrote:still now weapons/artillery expert... but if I'm not mistaken this is something PAK40'ish??
Perhaps in a Bauform 65a?
Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
HI Eax-EEax-E wrote:Hello
Very nice collection of pictures !
The guns must be some 15,5 cm K418 (f).
Bye
These where indeed the guns known to have been used here!
grtz
Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
Oh.. Okay then not so PAK'ish then...TH wrote:Looks like a 5 cm KwK L/60 to me.myt1prod wrote:still now weapons/artillery expert... but if I'm not mistaken this is something PAK40'ish??
Perhaps in a Bauform 65a?
Perhaps others could help to confirm the guntype and bauform.
Thx TH!
Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
Hi the round foundation for the radar (you say Wassermann) is for a Freya Fahrstuhl!
In the Netherlands we have one foundation of this special radar left (at Harderwijk from complex "Hase").
A picture of the concrete base on the bottom of this page (link below).
http://www.fortificatieforum.nl/viewtop ... =fahrstuhl
Greetings and thanks for the nice pictures.
JK
In the Netherlands we have one foundation of this special radar left (at Harderwijk from complex "Hase").
A picture of the concrete base on the bottom of this page (link below).
http://www.fortificatieforum.nl/viewtop ... =fahrstuhl
Greetings and thanks for the nice pictures.
JK
Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
Thx JKJKernwerk wrote:Hi the round foundation for the radar (you say Wassermann) is for a Freya Fahrstuhl!
In the Netherlands we have one foundation of this special radar left (at Harderwijk from complex "Hase").
A picture of the concrete base on the bottom of this page (link below).
http://www.fortificatieforum.nl/viewtop ... =fahrstuhl
Greetings and thanks for the nice pictures.
JK
I know most of the ID's on the radars at De Panne is already mentioned somewhere on the forum, but it's been a while since I was active on the forum. I was so eager to share these new photo's with you I didn't take the time yet to search into the information concerning these radars... I knew the right answers would be provided by you - the membres of this forum
Thx for the ID
Jean
Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
Some other unique photo's from yet another collection... Enjoy!
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The collections contains many other photo's mainly showing Germans with locals, liberators with locals, beachdefenses, wreckage, ... shot all around De Panne but not in relationship to the Stp Von Rundstedt... so I didn't post them, not to pollude this topic. I will however in other topic's when they prove to be of interest on the subject.
Greetz
Jean
The collections contains many other photo's mainly showing Germans with locals, liberators with locals, beachdefenses, wreckage, ... shot all around De Panne but not in relationship to the Stp Von Rundstedt... so I didn't post them, not to pollude this topic. I will however in other topic's when they prove to be of interest on the subject.
Greetz
Jean
Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)
Hello Jean
Thanks for sharing these great picture's , the first one a 25 pounder aka 8.67 cm F.K. 280 (e)
and the bunker for the panzerturret is great , would like to know were this one was placed ??
Regards Jos
Thanks for sharing these great picture's , the first one a 25 pounder aka 8.67 cm F.K. 280 (e)
and the bunker for the panzerturret is great , would like to know were this one was placed ??
Regards Jos