Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 18 Dec 2014, 17:26

here another photo of this emplacement already posted earlier in this topic by me + the recently uploaded photo without the watermark on it;
possible fahrstuhl1.jpg
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to sad there are no referencepoints in the background which enable us to pinpoint it's location.

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by Bunkerfreak » 27 Jun 2015, 19:27

Is this a possible Geschäftszimmergebaude typ 44?

It has the same shape as the one in Predefin (FuMG Pferd).
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by Bunkerfreak » 28 Jun 2015, 08:37

Hello again,

After intensely researching these NCAP aerials, i think i found 2x L 430A on this site, and one 196 waterstoragebunker.

Here the First L430A near the L479, notice the shape of the shadowlines with the garage:
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by Bunkerfreak » 28 Jun 2015, 08:42

Not 100% shure about thiseone, Near the Leitstand:
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What do you guys think? could these two be L430A, one of them build in mirror?

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by Bunkerfreak » 28 Jun 2015, 12:01

001.jpg
This L430A fits just fine in place! the other bunkers which i thought to be VF, are mostly VF 7b
002.jpg
Another part, near the L479, has been places in layers. suddenly i saw the protecting walls of an 502 near the L479 on this aerial from NCAP :thumbsup:
i compared with other batteries of the same ArKo, this battery looks familiar to "Barbara" near Zeebrugge. Only i remain with some questions...

1: Was this battery still active in 1944? if so, it must have been a battery from HKAR 1240 i guess...
2: What kind of leitstand was constructed here? several SK types where build in Belgium, but from this battery i have no plans, can anyone provide me one so i can create another layer in this kmz-project...
3: There are smaller bunkers between the bettungen; to large for a VF 2b, to small for a VF 7b... If you look closely (until ure eyes burn!) you can sometimes recognize an notausgang...

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by CNOCK » 08 Nov 2015, 11:51

Hi,,

this picture also taken at De Panne.

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by SES » 08 Nov 2015, 12:56

Hi,
A Freya LZ - or rather what's left of it :milwink:
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by Chazette » 08 Nov 2015, 17:31

on aerial picture the Regelbau 196 is not good is 195
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by Chazette » 09 Nov 2015, 08:10

i think i found 2x L 430A on this site, and one 196 waterstoragebunker.

Hi, no L 430A here
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 12 Nov 2015, 13:57

CNOCK wrote:Hi,,

this picture also taken at De Panne.

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Hi
The latest photo by Cnock is the same as this photo, but taken from another angle and much later on, as the even more damaged radar indicates.
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by pierrot » 12 Nov 2015, 14:49

Hi Jean,

I am not conviced it is the same Freya. There were 2 Freya's in this position (and 2 W-R).

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by SES » 12 Nov 2015, 15:47

Hi,
The first picture depicts a much damaged Freya LZ, the second a Freya (mot.).
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 12 Nov 2015, 20:26

Indeed, could be the second one standing in De Panne... the construction of the brick protectionwalls is similar; notice the vertical lines in both photos. If this is in fact the 'other one' then this is this is the first picture I encounter of this second Freya-position. (the fact that both radars are in a different condition could also indicate the photos where taken some time/years apart from each other)

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 20 Jun 2016, 19:20

New bunker discovered that belonged to the Stp Von Rundstedt!!
I haven't seen the slightest mention of this bunker in the many researches which have been done yet on this stronghold.
I already payed a visit to one of the inhabitants of the building on which the bunker is standing and the presence of the bunker was confirmed.
Now hoping to get access to this bunker which is hidden in the cellar of a building and is still accesible and should be in good condition. (it's not the known Vf bunker underneath the building Montreal!)
When I do, i'll be sharing the results with you (if acces is not allowed i'll share it's location with you for others to have a try at getting acces to this bunker)... hoping for a nice discovery... seen it's location and aerial research (on which it can't be seen), my guess would be some kind of Vf or small Regelbau bunker would fit the available space

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 27 Jul 2016, 18:44

in this film the Typ 44 can clearly be seen, starting from 4m00s;

http://www.sonuma.be/archive/la-panne-u ... e-westhoek

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