German coast batterie Sudwall ??

[jopaerya]

Hello All

Who knows what type of guns are on these picture's , it could be near Toulon ??

Regards Jos

[Eax-E]

Hello Jos,

There are very few casemates with curve todt front on the Sudwall, so in my opinon it is the Espanet Battery Rhl068. If I'm right, the guns are 13,8 K.M.24 K.L/40 under M270.

Very nice pics !

Bye

[jopaerya]

Hello Arthur

Good option , the photo's look the same as in the book Sudwall .

Regards Jos

[Eax-E]

Hello

Is there a photo of the one with the camouflage net on the book ? It could bring a confirmation.

bye

[jopaerya]

The gunshield is very typical ,but it looks a lot like the 13.8 cm K.M. 24 (f)
both picture's in the book Sudwall have no camouflage nets .

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Here a drawing of the gunbunker and gun from Alain Chazette .

Regards Jos

[Manuferey]

The gunshield is very typical ,but it looks a lot like the 13.8 cm K.M. 24 (f)
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Regards Jos

Here is a picture of a French 138,6 mm Mle 1924 gun with the typical shield mentioned by Jos:


Source: French forum ATF40

Emmanuel

[jopaerya]

Hello Emmanuel

Thanks for the picture , I think we have a 100% I.D.

Regards Jos

[Manuferey]

I am getting confused by the German designations of the French 138 mm Mle 1910 gun (aka 14 cm Mle 1910 or 138,6 mm Mle 1910 depending on the French Navy designation of the period) and the 138 mm Mle 1924 above.

Among various sources, we can find 13,8 cm K10 (f), KM10(f), KM/24(f) (with a “/”) and some more.

From Jos above, KM 24(f), without « / », would mean the 138 mm Mle 1924. But Eax-E also indicates 13,8 K.M.24 K.L/40.

Any explanation ?

Emmanuel

[jopaerya]

Here a picture from Ebay with some guns of the same type in a French arsenal .

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Same Ebay picture as above but sharper

[jopaerya]

Photo from Alain Chazette