Panther Bodenturm

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Erik E
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Panther Bodenturm

Postby Erik E » 13 Mar 2002 23:20

Hello!

Last year a so called "Panther Bodenturm" was found near Stettin in Poland.
Originally it was placed upon a bunker to protect a railway bridge.
Has anyone heard what happened to it???

On the photo it looks nearly intact, What plans are made for it in the future??

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Postby Erik E » 18 Mar 2002 20:01

Has no one heard about this?

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Postby Johan Elisson » 18 Mar 2002 22:38

Nope, looks interresting though.

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Postby mike262752 » 19 Mar 2002 02:55

I never heard of it, probably because im in the US

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Postby Johan Elisson » 19 Mar 2002 20:24

Do you have an URL to a page about it???

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Postby Erik E » 19 Mar 2002 20:46

No url...... It`s the usual "trough a friend which knows somemone who has a friend who met somebody who might know something" story :)

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Postby TheContemplator » 20 Mar 2002 00:45

Wow, nope, never heard of it. Let me know what happened to it?

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Postby Johan Elisson » 20 Mar 2002 10:42

Erik E, ok!!! =)

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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne » 21 Mar 2002 21:59

I know of another picture, where a similar bunker turret has been blown off the bunker (positioning it vertical), but it didn't seem to have much damadge either - I guess that a grenade that penetrates the ring would set off the ammo, and then taking the turret for a fly...

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Postby Erik E » 30 Jun 2002 22:58

I think (by looking at the date) this must have been one of my first postings here!

Finally found some more info on the Panther turret

http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/page53.html

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Postby Christian Ankerstjerne » 01 Jul 2002 05:08

Very interresting in deed. Glad it's being restored, and not sold as scrap!

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Panther Bodenturm

Postby Simon H » 01 Jul 2002 16:15

Hello All,
Been busy and hadn't been able to get back to the forum. I just wanted to correct myself on the turret (sorry I was sat in front of the PC in the middle of the night updating).

In fact the turret was found September last year during railway repair work (not road as I said on the site). The railway authorities were forced to recover the turret as it posed a problem (we were hoping it was a complete tank!!).
The turret will be restored and become the centre piece of a military exhibition in Stettin.
I will have photos of this once it happens.
btw This is the second such structure to be unearthed.

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Postby Erik E » 13 Mar 2003 20:49

Once again, I have to add something on this old tread :-)

I`m avare of the concrete "Regelbau 687", but I have also heard about a version mounted on a "steel frame or box" and even wooden constructions!

Any info on these 2 strangers?

Here is the R-687
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Panther Ostwallturm

Postby Javichu » 22 Mar 2003 12:03

Three models(From Panther Variants 1942-45)
Pantherturm I (stahluntersartz):With steel box base
Pantherturm III (Betonsockel) :Concrete base (regelbau 687?)
Panther-Turm A (Schnelleinbau): Wooden bunker base
I think that the first two are often confused as the first were usually covered (The steel box) with concrete .
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Postby Javichu » 22 Mar 2003 12:36

Concrete and wooden bunkers.
In the disabled example you can see why I think steel box and concrete based are often confused: The steel box is clearly visible showing the turret ring and surrounded by concrete...
The turrets came from two sources:
From disabled Panthers- from D to G -without modifications.
Specially modified ones with reinforced roof ,with a simplified commander hatch (No cuppola,only a rotating episcope) and only a Nahverteidigungswaffe (Gun fumes were expelled thought turret ring)
I have seen both kind of turrets in steel and concrete based Panther Ostwallturm but only of the second in -What I think could be- wooden bunkers (Colour pic) this one shows a hexagonal base which supports turret ring.Something that I think should be unnecessary if turret ring was welded on the steel box or put on concrete but very useful if based on a wooden roof...The example found at Poland shows that steel base.
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