Panther Bodenturm

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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby herring » 09 Nov 2014 12:41

Andrzej,

The photo above was attached by you some time ago - comparison looks quite clear?
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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby herring » 09 Nov 2014 21:28

In Ron Klages Panzer forum viewtopic.php?f=47&t=47721&start=15 I've posted a picture as below.
It's a sort of "downgrade set" to convert tank into bunker - elements in red (rectangle on a turret is only a patch for penetration hole I guess). As they can be seen in many pictures, I think they were standardised in some way.
I think still some elements need to be removed from the tank to show a "Berlin Panther bunker ".

Can we call it a new version of Panther tank/ bunker?

Can it be called Panther(bo) ? :-)

Any opinions?
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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby jopaerya » 20 Nov 2014 17:26

I have a question about this picture , you can see the original marking of the U.S. Signal Corps
but I have seen this picture before in this topic flipped horizontal and placed at the Futa pass ??

Regards Jos
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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby herring » 20 Nov 2014 20:28

Correct, flipped Futa Pass.

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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby jopaerya » 20 Nov 2014 21:39

Thanks Herring , so the signature of the U.S. Signals in the left corner is fake .

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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby Andrzej Ditrich » 21 Nov 2014 00:30

herring wrote:In Ron Klages Panzer forum viewtopic.php?f=47&t=47721&start=15 I've posted a picture as below.
It's a sort of "downgrade set" to convert tank into bunker - elements in red (rectangle on a turret is only a patch for penetration hole I guess). As they can be seen in many pictures, I think they were standardised in some way.
I think still some elements need to be removed from the tank to show a "Berlin Panther bunker ".
Can we call it a new version of Panther tank/ bunker?
Can it be called Panther(bo) ? :-)
Any opinions?

Thanks Herring for clarification-yes it looks like the same modification of top siode of tank's hull.
10 Panthers were gathered together in Krupp-Druckenmüller in Berlin-Tempelhof specially for this purpose (modification).
We can assume that those workshops were responsible for this design.

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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby herring » 24 Nov 2014 01:02

Hello Andrzej,
It's really interesting - did you find any description about the nature of modifications? Purpose is quite obvious, but maybe also purpose was defined? Dug-in tank was to have entrance both from front and back?

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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby andrea88 » 03 Dec 2014 16:47

Hi, my name is Andrea Piovesan, Im making a research on the gothic line between Montecchio and Tavullia. Im searching the exact position of the mine field and the anti-tank ditches. I saw an aereal photograph of these places. Can i know where can i find images like this?

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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby andrea88 » 03 Dec 2014 16:51

Hi Im new here, I m searching aereal photo of tavullia. I m doing a research on the lendscape of Foglia river and i saw that Herring published an aereal photo of -Point 204 and monte Marrone.
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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby jopaerya » 06 Apr 2015 10:28

Some documents from Nara ( Pyrenäenfront ) from the part of the AOK 1 and the border of the AOK 1 , Regards Jos
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Re: Panther bodenturm

Postby Manuferey » 05 Sep 2015 19:18

Umberto Gorena wrote:Hi Bill 13
The road in front of the Panther Turm is the Strada Statale 65 del Passo della Futa ( Futa Pass state road N°65)
locality Saint Lucia.
Bregds. SGM Gorena


Another picture of this Panther Turm (see posts of 02 Mar 2012 on page 13 of this thread) by a US soldier (Jesse Willard - right):

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Source: http://enlistingtime.nawcc.org/willard_ ... y_page.php

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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby dirk Peeters » 26 Oct 2015 20:51

here german type doc
905P8 doc.jpg
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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby jopaerya » 26 Oct 2015 21:25

Please see the post of Arthur on page 14 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:41 am

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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby dirk Peeters » 26 Oct 2015 21:55

hahaha i never checked it
Arthur beats me here
I love this
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Re: Panther Bodenturm

Postby FORTIFICATIONS » 23 Nov 2015 00:25

Good evening everyone. I am a researcher of Italian fortifications and I've become interested bunkers with turret panther. I read the forums and there are many examples of towers with steel, but I have not seen with only concrete bunkers. I understand that they were provided only for Voralpenfestung
Confirm?
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