Panther Bodenturm

[herring]

Andrzej,

The photo above was attached by you some time ago - comparison looks quite clear?

[herring]

In Ron Klages Panzer forum http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1&start=15 I've posted a picture as below.
It's a sort of "downgrade set" to convert tank into bunker - elements in red (rectangle on a turret is only a patch for penetration hole I guess). As they can be seen in many pictures, I think they were standardised in some way.
I think still some elements need to be removed from the tank to show a "Berlin Panther bunker ".

Can we call it a new version of Panther tank/ bunker?

Can it be called Panther(bo) ?

Any opinions?

[jopaerya]

I have a question about this picture , you can see the original marking of the U.S. Signal Corps
but I have seen this picture before in this topic flipped horizontal and placed at the Futa pass ??

Regards Jos

[herring]

Correct, flipped Futa Pass.

[jopaerya]

Thanks Herring , so the signature of the U.S. Signals in the left corner is fake .

[Andrzej Ditrich]

In Ron Klages Panzer forum http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1&start=15 I've posted a picture as below.
It's a sort of "downgrade set" to convert tank into bunker - elements in red (rectangle on a turret is only a patch for penetration hole I guess). As they can be seen in many pictures, I think they were standardised in some way.
I think still some elements need to be removed from the tank to show a "Berlin Panther bunker ".
Can we call it a new version of Panther tank/ bunker?
Can it be called Panther(bo) ?
Any opinions?

Thanks Herring for clarification-yes it looks like the same modification of top siode of tank's hull.
10 Panthers were gathered together in Krupp-Druckenmüller in Berlin-Tempelhof specially for this purpose (modification).
We can assume that those workshops were responsible for this design.

[herring]

Hello Andrzej,
It's really interesting - did you find any description about the nature of modifications? Purpose is quite obvious, but maybe also purpose was defined? Dug-in tank was to have entrance both from front and back?

[andrea88]

Hi, my name is Andrea Piovesan, Im making a research on the gothic line between Montecchio and Tavullia. Im searching the exact position of the mine field and the anti-tank ditches. I saw an aereal photograph of these places. Can i know where can i find images like this?

Thanks to everybody

[andrea88]

Hi Im new here, I m searching aereal photo of tavullia. I m doing a research on the lendscape of Foglia river and i saw that Herring published an aereal photo of -Point 204 and monte Marrone.
Thanks

[jopaerya]

Some documents from Nara ( Pyrenäenfront ) from the part of the AOK 1 and the border of the AOK 1 , Regards Jos

[Manuferey]

Hi Bill 13
The road in front of the Panther Turm is the Strada Statale 65 del Passo della Futa ( Futa Pass state road N°65)
locality Saint Lucia.
Bregds. SGM Gorena

Another picture of this Panther Turm (see posts of 02 Mar 2012 on page 13 of this thread) by a US soldier (Jesse Willard - right):


Source: http://enlistingtime.nawcc.org/willard_ ... y_page.php

Emmanuel

[dirk Peeters]

here german type doc

[jopaerya]

Please see the post of Arthur on page 14 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:41 am

[dirk Peeters]

hahaha i never checked it
Arthur beats me here
I love this
Dirk

[FORTIFICATIONS]

Good evening everyone. I am a researcher of Italian fortifications and I've become interested bunkers with turret panther. I read the forums and there are many examples of towers with steel, but I have not seen with only concrete bunkers. I understand that they were provided only for Voralpenfestung
Confirm?
Thank you