Panther Bodenturm
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Looks like given 3 locations, all in triangle Pustochka - Opochka - Sebezh. Reiher Stellung and Stp Opochka - in back of Panther Stellung. In general in half-way between Vitebsk and Pskov (Belarussia - Russia)
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Thanks Herring
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Herring already made it-thanks
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Looks like it's earliest Pantherturm locations in the East, also the most eastwards. In that area there were supposed to be 16 Pz.Kw.Turmen (no indication what type) .
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Re: Panther Bodenturm
Here a general and detailed map of above position from the some document as pictures posted by @andrew.herring wrote:Looks like given 3 locations, all in triangle Pustochka - Opochka - Sebezh. Reiher Stellung and Stp Opochka - in back of Panther Stellung. In general in half-way between Vitebsk and Pskov (Belarussia - Russia)
More pictures with other tank turrets bunker versions (no Panther) from this position I posted in our adequate topic: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic ... s#p2137535
Re: Panther Bodenturm
Hello Piotr,
Really a fantastic map!
According to a bit twisted soviet logics "statyonarnaya ustanovka s orudiynoi bashney tipa "Ferdinand" (105mm orudiye)" means probably Pantherturm?
Really a fantastic map!
According to a bit twisted soviet logics "statyonarnaya ustanovka s orudiynoi bashney tipa "Ferdinand" (105mm orudiye)" means probably Pantherturm?
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Thanks for photos Andrzej.
The orange spots on the map indicate locations for 16 Panthertürme mentioned in Panzer Tracts #21.2. Those 16 turrets were fitted with an additional smoke mortar, and thus they must have been Ostwalltürme (F.Pz.DT 4341). Probably the very first batch of this type of turret, since they were shipped to the East already in April 1944.
Probably a total of as many as 45-50 Pantherturmstahlunterstände were sent to the Ostwall (Dnjepr/Pripyat/Bug etc.) during the spring of 1944 (based on information in Panzer Tracts #21.2). But still not much for an 1800 km long fortification line.
Lars
Thanks for photos Andrzej.
Here is a map (from Wikipedia article “Fester Platz”, coloured markings made by me) with the 3 locations (green circle). The photos published in this forum until now indicates, that at least 4 Stahlunterstände with Pantherturm Ausf. D were shipped to the East (numbers 7(?), 24(?), 39 and 40).Looks like given 3 locations, all in triangle Pustochka - Opochka - Sebezh. Reiher Stellung and Stp Opochka - in back of Panther Stellung. In general in half-way between Vitebsk and Pskov (Belarussia - Russia)
The orange spots on the map indicate locations for 16 Panthertürme mentioned in Panzer Tracts #21.2. Those 16 turrets were fitted with an additional smoke mortar, and thus they must have been Ostwalltürme (F.Pz.DT 4341). Probably the very first batch of this type of turret, since they were shipped to the East already in April 1944.
Probably a total of as many as 45-50 Pantherturmstahlunterstände were sent to the Ostwall (Dnjepr/Pripyat/Bug etc.) during the spring of 1944 (based on information in Panzer Tracts #21.2). But still not much for an 1800 km long fortification line.
Lars
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Hello Lars,
Picture missing??
Picture missing??
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Right herring. Here it is.
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No it is not. Seems that I have some attachment problems. I'll try again.
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Here is the drawing (hopefully)
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It must be a very special map, Lars
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it must be stealth technology
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You may be right Andrzej. Unfortunately I am not able to unstealth it Seems that my old pc was partially knocked out by a software upgrade a few days ago.
The map is not a very special one, homemade and just indicating the position in the Pustoshka-Opochka-Sebezh triangle (3x Pantherturm) and Luninets-Brest-Kovel (16x Panther-Otwallturm).
greetings Lars
The map is not a very special one, homemade and just indicating the position in the Pustoshka-Opochka-Sebezh triangle (3x Pantherturm) and Luninets-Brest-Kovel (16x Panther-Otwallturm).
greetings Lars
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Re: Panther Bodenturm
Here a map made by Lars.
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