Panther Bodenturm

Andrzej Ditrich · Post by **Andrzej Ditrich** » 15 Aug 2005 20:12

it's a pitty that my dail-up is to slow for searching on that site

-I know this kind of paine

Have a look inside this link (see above) there a some nice photos of Allied equipment and some knocked out/captured Axis(Stugs,Nashorn.....)
I like this Swimmwagen used by Polish Military Police

Brgds
@ndrew

Sander D · Post by **Sander D** » 19 Aug 2005 20:11

From the ostpanzer forum.

http://ostpanzer.com/forum/index.php?ac ... st&id=4755

Cheers

Sander

Vincent S. · Post by **Vincent S.** » 23 Aug 2005 20:00

Hello,

They Have A original Panther Bodemturm in A german Museum,realy nice!!!
Just have a look on your own

Also A pic of the turret

http://www.warmuseums.nl/gal/089gal.htm
(see link)

Best Regards...
Axisfactbook...

Andrzej Ditrich · Post by **Andrzej Ditrich** » 26 Aug 2005 22:19

That is a nice found:
Source: Ullstein Bild

Brgds
@ndrew

Javichu · Post by **Javichu** » 26 Aug 2005 23:26

Amazing! A PzIV turret at Berlin!
By the way, have you realized there are three different pictures of the same Berlin Panther Turm in this thread?

Andrzej Ditrich · Post by **Andrzej Ditrich** » 26 Aug 2005 23:31

Two upper I knew for sure preciously-but by putting them together like you did-Yes that is one and the same turret!

Note that camo 'cloud' shape near additional armor plate attached to the left side.

I wonder if the bunker still exist in Berlin-I mean this underground part....

Thanks!

Brgds
@ndrew

Sander D · Post by **Sander D** » 27 Aug 2005 16:28

Great pics @ndrew

Verry nice site http://www.ullsteinbild.de/de_start.htm ,thanks for pointing it out.

It's great searching on it.

I believe the panther turm shown below is the same one that was posted by javichu (the third one),there is also a trench in frond of it.

Cheers

Sander

Andrzej Ditrich · Post by **Andrzej Ditrich** » 27 Aug 2005 17:15

Your welcome

Yes that is a great site!
Still finding something new search for Atlantikwall

Brgds
@ndrew

herring · Post by **herring** » 27 Aug 2005 22:34

Hello All!

I'm still thinking, if these 3 pictures posted by Javichu show this same turret...
1. On the last picture we can see the house in the background all in fire.
2. In Wohnenschau archive there is a film showing this same turret, while a house in the background, totally burned out, is being blown up (title of the film - something about rebuilding of Berlin)
3. So - when could be taken picture nr 1 and 2, showing untouched building in the background, neither burned out nor demolished, with american soldiers around?

regards
herring

herring · Post by **herring** » 27 Aug 2005 22:38

Hello once again,

I have also another question about Pantherturm:
On the walls of the box under the turret you can very often see a triangle with a sort of inscription inside. Can anyone tell me, what was the text of the inscription?

regards
herring

Erik E · Post by **Erik E** » 31 Aug 2005 21:55

Can anyone tell me, what was the text of the inscription?

Never seen a sharp photo of the text, but it starts with "Vorsicht!" followed by 4 words on 3 lines below......

Erik

Ironbutterfly · Post by **Ironbutterfly** » 01 Sep 2005 22:13

i wonder if crews were panzer division personnell?

Andrzej Ditrich · Post by **Andrzej Ditrich** » 01 Sep 2005 22:24

On the walls of the box under the turret you can very often see a triangle with a sort of inscription inside. Can anyone tell me, what was the text of the inscription?

Guess that till now nobody knows that...
On pics of models there are blanks.
Mayby the meaning was: 'this side up'-or something like this-this steel box looks almost the same from all the sides.

For sure there weren't 'Rauchen verboten!'

Pics from MIG model kits site
Brgds
@ndrew

herring · Post by **herring** » 01 Sep 2005 22:51

I'm also sure about "Vorsicht!" in the beginning.

I guess it might be something about size of box from point of view of transport - the box might be sticking outside the railcar or truck. There are photos of upper parts placed on a railcar or a truck, and triangles always can be seen from the side.
The inscription may say something like this: "Attention! Size of load is above standard limits." Maybe some of you have seen similar triangles placed on a different types of german, off-size equipment? Probably text is very the same?

regards

Sander D · Post by **Sander D** » 04 Sep 2005 15:26

Here are some pictures from the ostpanzer forum.

http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/search ... e&start=72

The pics

http://ostpanzer.com/forum/index.php?ac ... st&id=5018

http://ostpanzer.com/forum/index.php?ac ... st&id=5017

Cheers

Sander