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MG Bunker

Post by Korbius » 04 May 2003 17:05

I took these images last weekend in Hague, Holland, and this is an MG bunker in a triangular shape. Erik E. how bout some more details on this bunker? :D

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Post by Erik E » 04 May 2003 17:45

some more details on this bunker


I can tell you this:

This is not a standarized German design of the "Regelbau" system.

Most bunkers were built by so-called "Festungpionieer-baustaben".
It appears that these units often had a own special constructions.
(Sonderkonstruktionen)
Ofen you will find many similar SK bunkers in a concentrated area, but not anywhere else in the Atlantikwall.....

The thickness of the roof places it in the "Vf" category (Verstärkt feldmassig)


So what we see on your nice photo is a "Vf SK MG" probably a local variant.

Here is a local MG-bunker from the Baustab 26 which operated in the are where I live...... Some similarities I would say"
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Post by Korbius » 04 May 2003 19:36

Thanks for the info Erik, and I would probably guess that this was part of a network of bunkers that covered the rear of the previous posted coastal turrets, and many of the bunkers are covered by trees and leaves, so I couldn't find any other ones except this.

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Post by Proton » 04 May 2003 19:47

Those metallic hooks that come out of the bunker(1st image), is that for a net cover or camouflaging the bunker?

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Post by Erik E » 04 May 2003 20:23

is that for a net cover or camouflaging the bunker?


Correct!

You will find those on most weapon emplacements.

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Post by Proton » 04 May 2003 20:32

The bunker on the first image seems to have many openings for the machine gun, I've never seen one such small with so many emplacements for mg's.

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Post by Andy H » 05 May 2003 00:09

It was not uncommon for some of these type of bunkers to include a light AT-TK weapon aswell as MG's.

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Post by herring » 05 May 2003 10:27

Hello all,

To me it looks like a dutch S7 Kasemate. It was built before IIw.w. Look at

http://users.bart.nl/~ravelijn/grebbe/page5.html

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Post by Korbius » 05 May 2003 11:24

Actually herring is right. The bunker seems like the dutch one in the link he showed. Probably pre-WWII

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Post by Erik E » 05 May 2003 17:32

Then add "could have been" to my info........ :)

Very interesting link btw! The R-703 is very rare!

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Post by herring » 06 May 2003 15:11

Yes, you can be never sure for 100% in case of bunkers. To me it looks very much as dutch one, because of these hooks in few rows - I've seen them on "pyramide" type dutch bunkers.

In Holland they have a special strongpoint/ line, called "pantherstellung" , with some R703 in one place.

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Post by Erik E » 06 May 2003 19:50

never sure for 100% in case of bunkers


So true......
I have seen examples of Vf bunkers being "copied" from the Czech lines and built in Norway.

After seeing the link, I would ofcourse agree that it is a Dutch one, but there is allways a little "?" hiding in the background :D

There are also a few R-703`s near Köln......

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Post by herring » 07 May 2003 10:27

Hello,

??? - copies of Czech bunkers in Norway? Do you have pictures of them?

Another question - did you notice any special place, where you can find untypical / SK bunkers? In Poland in most of defence lines built after 43 you can find typical ringstands and regelbauten, but in cities not incorporated into lines you can find some small, strange bunkers. How does it look like in Norway?

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Post by Erik E » 07 May 2003 19:26

How does it look like in Norway


Much the same I guess....

All the early batteries are made of light concrete/stone bunkers, while those made in 43 and later has much Regelbau bunkers.
Many of the batteries are built with open emplacements connected with tunnels inside the rocks, but after 43, they added R-671`s in front of the openings!

Seems like I have misplaced the photo of the Czhech bunker, but I will keep searching and post it asap when I find it!

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