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Belle Ile

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Post by jopaerya » 20 Jun 2015, 14:14

Hello All

Who has visited this bunker at Belle Isle , should be a 621 and 677 but the entrance defense ???

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Re: Belle Ile

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Post by Bunkerfreak » 20 Jun 2015, 19:18

looks awesome to visit!


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Re: Belle Ile

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Post by Chazette » 20 Jun 2015, 22:41

Hello
you have all information in the new book of Jacques Tomine on Book le Mur de l'Atlantique à Belle Île en mer

the entrance defense go to underground tunnel only
and you have the 677

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Post by jopaerya » 21 Jun 2015, 09:49

Hi Alain

I don't have that book , is there a drawing of the tunnel in the book ?

Regards Jos

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Re: Belle Ile

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Post by Chazette » 21 Jun 2015, 13:26

there are many positions for a comprehensive master plan with the works, trenches and more
AC

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Post by dirk Peeters » 21 Jun 2015, 21:05

hello Alain question about the LAG (or PaK)
A 677 ? with amo niches like a 612 , looks like a 612 to me but i haven t visited belle ile so i could be wrong or we have a 677 that is unique
love to see that plan
BTW i have that book but because of the works at my house cant reach it for the moment
To Jos we have a 502 though with a nakampfraum and a third exit ... so .....
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Post by Chazette » 21 Jun 2015, 23:21

good evening
Firstly it is not my book I am not the author
Secondly I've never been on the island
in I 320 you have a 621 in back
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Post by dirk Peeters » 23 Jun 2015, 08:26

no problem Alain i ll know you are not author , and for the autor it isn t that simple to identify a 612 , 677 or a 680 , that took a lot of measuring for exact identification
me too a few years back has some difficultys with these LAG and PAK
me too never visited but in the picture of Jos is definitively a 612
so it looks there is a lot of work to be done at the island and it looks great to visit stuf like that
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Post by moonraker » 23 Jun 2015, 12:36

Chazette wrote:Hello
you have all information in the new book of Jacques Tomine on Book le Mur de l'Atlantique à Belle Île en mer

the entrance defense go to underground tunnel only
and you have the 677

yes dirk,
but mister AC big expert,sorry "historian" Makes no difference between a 612 and a 677. while it is clear as differentiated on the photo.
us have seen the same mistakes on the book sector RE. :lol:

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Post by jopaerya » 23 Jun 2015, 14:31

Why Etienne ??? Again Again and Again .

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Re: Belle Ile

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Post by Chazette » 23 Jun 2015, 17:43

Dear Sir
Before criticizing a book, it is already buying.
If you had purchased, you would have seen that I am not the author of the book nor the Editor !!!
So your vindictive and aggressive message has no reason to be included here.
In my post above, I do indeed gives the information that has been written in the book, because like I said, I've never been to Belle-île
After you do not like the historians, this is your problem, but fortunately they exist so that we can read books, but I grant you, this is not the case for everyone, we must However, love reading and love learning things.
FYI, as an amateur historian, here are some books that I realized
http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/t1623 ... -livres-ac
In this regard, I unfortunately did not find the Weeb of books fortifications with your name on it. I found your books on the Canvas and gift packaging.
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So if you have any criticisms to make about the fortifications, write to Mr. Tomine (author of the book) and if unfortunately this book has errors (but who does not, and the perfect book does not exist ), this is not a reason to be as aggressive.
So please respect his work, for he at least he make conférences and writes books on the Atlantic Wall and to make it known to the public.
Also this person, retired for many years, was already walking on the Atlantic Wall while you were not even born.

RESPECT to Mr. Tomine

Criticism is easy, but a book is a lot harder!

About your mistakes advertising your business on the internet has many mistakes in French, this is not a guarantee of reliability for the customer.
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As the saying goes: Before criticizing others, we must put its own house
Good evening Mr. specialist

In french
Cher Monsieur
Avant de critiquer un livre, il faut déjà l’acheter.
Si vous l’aviez acheté, vous auriez vu que je ne suis pas l’auteur du livre, ni l’Editeur !!!
Donc votre message vindicatif et agressif n’a aucune raison de figurer ici.
Dans mon message ci-dessus, je ne donne en effet que les informations qui ont été écrites dans le livre, car comme je l’ai dit, je ne suis jamais allé à Belle-île
Après vous n’aimez pas les historiens, c'est votre problème, mais heureusement qu’ils existent pour que nous puissions lire des livres, mais je vous l'accorde, ce n'est pas le cas de tout le monde, il faut toutefois aimer la lecture et aimer apprendre des choses.
Pour info, en tant qu' historien amateur, voici quelques livres que j'ai réalisé
http://atlantikwall.superforum.fr/t1623 ... -livres-ac
A ce sujet, je n’ai malheureusement pas trouver sur le weeb de livres traitant des fortifications avec votre nom dessus. Je n’ai trouvé que vos livres sur le Canevas et sur les Emballages cadeaux.

Alors si vous avez des critiques à faire sur les fortifications, il faut écrire à Monsieur Tomine (l’auteur du livre) et si malheureusement ce livre possède des erreurs (mais qui n'en fait pas, et le livre parfait n'existe pas), ce n'est pas une raison pour être aussi agressif.
Alors veuillez respecter son travail, car lui au moins, il fait des conférences et il écrit des livres sur le Mur de l'Atlantique pour ainsi le faire connaître au grand public.
De plus cette personne, retraité depuis de nombreuses années, se promenait déjà sur le Mur de l'Atlantique alors que vous n'étiez même pas né.

RESPECT à Monsieur Tomine

La critique est facile, mais faire un livre c'est beaucoup plus dur !

Au sujet d'erreurs votre publicité pour votre entreprise sur internet possède de nombreuses fautes de français, cela n'est pas un gage de sérieux pour le client.
Comme dit le proverbe : avant de critiquer les autres, il faut balayer devant sa porte
Bonne soirée Monsieur le spécialiste

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Re: Belle Ile

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Post by moonraker » 23 Jun 2015, 18:19

thank for my PUb :thumbsup:
it's everything you find ?? :thumbsup: hahaha

speaking of sèrieux start with your work. thank

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Re: Belle Ile

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Post by dirk Peeters » 23 Jun 2015, 18:27

Hello please
Calm everybody
I ll give my respect to all writers
i ll buy their books and in every book there are errors
and as i wrote i have also problems not lomg ago about the differences between these three types 680 , 612 and 677
let s not start again please
Let s continue about all our work and show respect to everyone here
if there is an error in a book that would not mean it is a bad book
i only pointed that 612 out on the first place and not an attack
only a coorection
I ll give my respects to Tomine here
and to all who reponded here

Dirk

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Re: Belle Ile

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Post by Andy H » 12 Jul 2015, 23:20

Hi

Can everybody take a deep breath before they post any more disparaging posts or off-topic posts.
If you feel unable to take a breath, don't be surprised by the consequences

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Andy H

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