Anti-tank versus Anti-aircraft guns

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Atencio
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Anti-tank versus Anti-aircraft guns

Post by Atencio » 11 May 2003 16:13

I am wondering if there are any physical differences between anti-tank and anti-aircraft guns. Example: FLAK 41 88mm and PaK 43/1 88mm or the 128mm FLAK 40 and the 128mm L/55. Are they the same gun or do they vary in say "length" or some other characteristic?

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Post by daveh » 11 May 2003 17:50

The answer to your question is yes there are physical differences between the Flak and Pak weapons you ask about.

The Flak 41 a was Rheinmettall- Borsig design which had a length of 6548mm (=L/74), a barrel length of 6293mm, shell weight 9.4 Kg., muzzle velocity (HE) 1000 m/s

The Pak 43 was a Krupp design which had a length of 6610mm (=L/71), a barrel length of 6280mm (without muzzle brake), length of rifling 5125mm, shell weight (SprGr 43) 9.4 Kg. with muzzle velocity of 950 m/s

The 12.8 cm Flak 40 was a Rheinmettall- Borsig design which had a length of 7835mm (=L/61), a barrel length of 7490mm, length of rifling 6477mm, shell weight 26 Kg., muzzle velocity (HE) 880 m/s

The Pak 44 was a Krupp design which had a length of 7023mm (=L/55), a barrel length of 6623mm, length of rifling 5538mm, shell weight 28 Kg. with muzzle velocity of 950 m/s (AP)

Obviously the carriages for the Flak and Pak guns were very different.

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Post by ChristopherPerrien » 11 May 2003 18:42

Just about everything is physically differnet between an AA gun and an AT
gun of the same bore width except the barrell and that can even have a differnet caliber (length).

You need to research two guns pretty good and try to find clear pictures of similar AA/AT guns and you will see this.

Of course you can have an AA gun used as an AA gun (Flak18) and they
usually do as well as similar AT but they are not built for that. i.e High siloette(sp?) ,more crew, no shield, not as manuverable, no AP ammo,etc.

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Post by Atencio » 11 May 2003 18:53

Thx for the good info. What about the 88mm L/56 found on the Tiger? I always thought it was originally an AA gun. Is that true?

Also since I am on a gun kick at the moment does anyone have a good reference for tank barrel lengths?

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