4.7 cm PaK mit MG
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4.7 cm PaK mit MG
In the recently dugout 680 in Scheveningen there was according to a geschutz und waffenlist in 1945 a 4.7 cm PaK mit MG?
Now i tried to search but can't find how this MG would be attached to the gun?
Gr, Tim
Now i tried to search but can't find how this MG would be attached to the gun?
Gr, Tim
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
sounds like a Skoda 4,7 t...but from a 631 or other type ... i ll know of this gun in a 612 ....
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
Ok Dirk, there was a thin walled bunker for 4.7 cm skoda (with extra room), maybe it's just a slip of the pen.. in the 680 there are no traces visible of an adaption for another weapon.
pictures can be found at fortificatieforum.nl
Gr, Tim
pictures can be found at fortificatieforum.nl
Gr, Tim
Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
There was in Lorient ( Kerbascuin ) a 4.7 cm PaK 36 K 36 build on a iron pivot in a 612
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Found this in the documents from the Nationaal Archief , Regards Jos
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
Nice Jos, is that list for the whole WBN?
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I think only the Southern part of Holland , please check the E mail box [email protected]
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
that means 4 680 built and equiped with a Skoda... and 5 625
That is a lot no ?
two pictures of the 612 equiped with the skoda and this 612 was a litle adapted for this gun on the right side of the combat room
That is a lot no ?
two pictures of the 612 equiped with the skoda and this 612 was a litle adapted for this gun on the right side of the combat room
Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
Maybe in the 680 and 625 the mobile 4.7 cm PaK 36 (t) was used ??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4,7cm_KP% ... k_gun2.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4,7cm_KP% ... k_gun2.jpg
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
maybe
But where is the MG mentioned above ?
But where is the MG mentioned above ?
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
There was mounted a coaxial MG on top of the 4,7 cm gun.
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
Hi Jens, thats what Jos and i are thinking. MG for aiming?
There are 100 % no remains of bolts to be found in the kampfraum of this particular 680.
Gr. Tim
There are 100 % no remains of bolts to be found in the kampfraum of this particular 680.
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
Attached photo where the MG can be seen fairly clear.
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
Yes, but a coaxial MG on a mobile gun?
We have two seperate documents stating there was a 4.7 Pak mit MG, and one even saying Festungspak! This could be a nice find.
Redrawal of all mobile guns where needed in the end of the war. What's left were static Festungspak.
We have two seperate documents stating there was a 4.7 Pak mit MG, and one even saying Festungspak! This could be a nice find.
Redrawal of all mobile guns where needed in the end of the war. What's left were static Festungspak.
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Re: 4.7 cm PaK mit MG
Some 200 meters from the 680 was a thinwalled bunker for 4.7 festungsPaK covering the harbourentrance. I would put my money on the 4.7 festungsPaK staying there.
In 1944 when the 2./SS panzerjägerkompanie manned the stutzpunkt there were 2X 7.5 cm PaK present, and a 4.5 cm PaK (probably they mean the 4.7) manned by 4./festungstammtruppen.
Maybe the 680 was abandoned after the departure of the Waffen ss unit?
http://atlantikwallmuseum.nl/atlantikwa ... eveningen/
In 1944 when the 2./SS panzerjägerkompanie manned the stutzpunkt there were 2X 7.5 cm PaK present, and a 4.5 cm PaK (probably they mean the 4.7) manned by 4./festungstammtruppen.
Maybe the 680 was abandoned after the departure of the Waffen ss unit?
http://atlantikwallmuseum.nl/atlantikwa ... eveningen/