8,5-cm Flak M 39 (r)

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8,5-cm Flak M 39 (r)

Post by Erik E » 14 May 2003 19:03

Hello!

I have never seen the "fremdengerät" number for this artillery, so I was wondering.....Did it have one, or was it just called 8,5-cm Flak M 39 (r) ?

The same gus was also drilled to 8,8 cm and used in coastal artillery.
What was it`s new name, and what kind of 88 ammo did it use?

Erik

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Post by Harri » 14 May 2003 19:13

In Finland these drilled 88mm Soviet AA guns were used like original 88s. As far as I know they used the same ammunition than German "acht-acht".

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Re: 8,5-cm Flak M 39 (r)

Post by JTV » 15 May 2003 07:04

Erik E wrote:
The same gus was also drilled to 8,8 cm and used in coastal artillery.
What was it`s new name, and what kind of 88 ammo did it use?

Erik


The name used by the Germans for these relined guns was 8,5/8,8 cm Flak 39 (r). As Harri already said the ammunition was the same as used in German made 8,8 cm Flak 18, Flak 36 and Flak 37 guns (8,8 cm Flak 41 used different, much more powerful ammunition).

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Post by Erik E » 15 May 2003 16:25

Thanks to you both!

Now I`m only missing the fremdengerät number..........


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Post by Mark V » 15 May 2003 16:41

Yep. Ammo was same, but in very heavy use (for example during Helsinki bombing raids in 1944) it was proven that this outboring was just a bit too much for gun which was originally designed as 76.2mm weapon, then modified using up the safety marginal of original design to 85mm - and then outbored to 88mm by Germans...

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Post by Erik E » 26 May 2003 16:58

Anyone know where I can find a side-view drawing of this gun?

Erik

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Post by Robert Hurst » 27 May 2003 10:45

Hi Erik

If you go to Page three of the Non-Axis Equipment and Militaria section of this forum, then look for Russian World War Two AA Guns, you will find a side view photograph of the Russian 8.5 cm Flak 39r.

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Post by Erik E » 27 May 2003 17:52

Thanks Robert! (or Bob?)

Great article too :)
Must have slipped me back then.........

Erik

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