Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

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Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 12:38

The Leitstand of Barbara is known
the map
barbara 05.jpg
Leitstand 01 plan 1.jpg
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Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 12:44

verified pictures
Leitstand 01 01a.jpg
Leitstand 01 01b.jpg
the front
Leitstand 01 02.jpg
we see here the "new" added part or the bunker with the 2 m walls
here the old Leitstand without the new one
Leitstand 01 05a.jpg
Leitstand 01 03.jpg
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Re: Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 12:55

another one
Leitstand 01 04a.jpg
here the leitstand in 1946
Leitstand 01 06.jpg
the 502 beside the Leitstand (in construction here)
502 24 01.jpg
on the map i above we see no other construction as the 502 (nr 26) and the leitstand (nr 24)
whein i look at the aerial picture there is something od
barbara 03.jpg
the 502 is measured by the belgian army
502 10 11 26 40.jpg
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Re: Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 13:02

we see another observationpost beside the three already there
2016-06-16_131047.jpg
on this wartime picture we see nothing
Leitstand 01 01a.jpg
on the picture of 1946 we see it
00.jpg
2016-06-16_131047.jpg
anybody has more info ? or other pictures ?
on the aerial picture of 1944 we see it
red ciircle (posted above)
but is looks already destroyed about 1953
1A4 1953.jpg
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Re: Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 13:59

i ve just seen that the belgian plan contains errors
Going to try to remove them
Leitstand 01 plan error.jpg
Leitstand 01 plan error a.jpg
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Re: Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 16:03

SK 24 plan004.jpg
here is a plan with use of the pictures and respecting the wall thickness of the "type 1" obs (as in Duinbergen , de Panne aso)
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Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 16:12

type 1 middelkerke.jpg
remarquable that the type 1 in Middelkerke has on the same spot as this one herea "notausgang"
perhaps the germans has made the same here at Barbara (a type 1 with emergency exit )
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Re: Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 16:15

some more pictures
Barbara Zeebrugge (5).jpg
Barbara Zeebrugge (6).jpg
Barbara Zeebrugge (7).jpg
love to see a plan of the building in bricks
this is also a two storey building
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Re: Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 16:22

two more
Leitstand 01 04b.jpg
Leitstand 01 05a.jpg
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Re: Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

Post by pierrot » 16 Jun 2016 16:54

Hello Dirk,

The small observation post is the Nr 25 on the full plan of the position. It is still visible on the aerial of 1948 hereunder.
About the bunkers west of the Leuvenstraat (Nr 17 to 29), autorisation for demolition has been released by the Belgian Army on 14-02-1952 and a demolition request order has been issued by the Ministery of Public Works on 12-04-1952. I just know Aanneming Braet got the contract to demolish those constructions but I didn't find the detailled report of this work in the Public Archives.
In the Archives "War damages compensation) (Oorlogsschade), I found just a document with the measurements of part of the Leitstand. Maybe it can help to correct your plan.

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Re: Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

Post by dirk Peeters » 16 Jun 2016 18:08

thanks Pierre
i don t understand that the "nahkampfraum is not visible .....
but it looks good
they give 8m60 , i got 8m40 ... so
they give 19m50 for the longest
i came out on 20m20
maybe the observationslit is not 2 meters but also 1m70
then it comes to 19m90
i ll think there is still an error
because the walls are only 1m66 a 1 m70 for the thick one

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Re: Zeebrugge StP Barbara HKB

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