2 cm Flak ??

[jopaerya]

Found this picture with Alied troops with a gun could this be a German 2 cm Flak ?? ( Photo = Life )

Regards Jos

[Ronguild]

2 cm Erdkampflafette. Wheels are very similar to the one fitted on Püppchen mount.
http://www.asphm.com/vehicules/88mm_rak ... er_43.html

[jopaerya]

The two legs of the gun ( round holes ) are the same as these two picture's

from the book "Die Heeresversuchstelle Kummersdorf"

[jopaerya]

A very very blurry photo of D 1869/3 "Gebrauchsanleitung für die 2 cm Erdkampflafette 44"
but you van see the two trails of the gun with the holes in it as you can see on both photo's
above so I think these photo are from the 2 cm Erdkampflafette 44 .

Regards Jos

[vrog]

wow, totaly new weapon for me. Thank you!

A litle idea: the lafette, isnt it lafette for oerlikon? - the holes etc. But just idea, i dont have photos for oerlicon to compare (im at work...)

[Grzesio]

The Erdkampflafette in these winter pictures is very similar to the 44 variant depicted in the D 1869/3 but not identical.
It lacks traverse arc between the trails, there are apparently no handles on their ends nor the towing hook. I think, it could be an early prototype.

[jopaerya]

Could be and sounds logical Grzesio ( Kummersdorf )

[Manuferey]

A litle idea: the lafette, isnt it lafette for oerlikon? - the holes etc. [...]

The wheels of the 2 cm Flak 28 Oerlikon are very different (large circular openings around the wheel) but the wheels of the 2 cm gun on the LIFE picture and on the 2 cm Erdkampflafette 44 data sheet are the same as the wheels of the 8.8 cm Pueppchen (see here:
/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=224118)
They had to be selected as being designed to be removable.

Emmanuel

[vrog]

Hallo, what about this topic? Isnt it the same?
viewtopic.php?f=70&t=100862

[Andrzej Ditrich]

New photo of Behelfslafette

[v60pih]

[Grzesio]

2 cm Erdkampflafette 44 was appropriate for the 2 cm Flak 38 only, as opposed to the 2 cm Erdkampflafette 43, which could be used with 2 cm Flak 30, 2 cm Flak 38, 2 cm KwK 30 and 2 cm KwK 38.

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

I found these two images from Ebay. 2cm Flak 38 gun but .....Any idea about the mount ??
In fire position and in transport position on a hand cart. Interesting that the cart have a spare barrel for the gun....

I think is not a Erdkampflafette 44 or 43 neither a Behelfslafette....

Sturm78