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Re: Kriegsmarine Fu.M.B. in the West

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Post by SES » 04 Apr 2017, 20:41

Hi Tim,
Understand :-)
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Re: Kriegsmarine Fu.M.B. in the West

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Post by nordfriese » 05 Apr 2017, 03:50

Hi!
Chazette wrote:yes see my book
I see...
Very interesting!


Maybe interesting as well...
German-Danish-Border to The Netherlands-Belgium-Border:

Fu.M.B. Wennigstedt/Sylt - FuMB 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. St. Peter Ording - FuMB 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Heligoland - FuMB 4,5,11 (each twice!)
Fu.M.B. Langeoog - FuMB 4,5
Fu.M.B. Borkum - FuMB 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Schiermonikoog - FuMB 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Terschelling - FuMB 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Texel North - FuMB 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Kamperduin - FuMB 4,5,11,12
Fu.M.B. Ijmuiden - FuMB 4,5,11,12
Fu.M.B. Katwijk - FuMB 4,5
Fu.M.B. Scheveningen - FuMB 11,15
Fu.M.B. Hoek van Holland - FuMB 4,5
Fu.M.B. Goeree - FuMB 11
Fu.M.B. Schouwen - FuMB 4,5

Please see also: http://www.gyges.dk/kriegsmarine_signal ... ligenc.htm :wink:

From a KTB:
"FuMB-Peilkreis "Mitte" an Hollandküste mit 3 FuMB-Stellen - Katwijk (Berta I),
Hoek van Holland (Berta II) und Ymuiden (Berta III) - seit dem 30.6.44 einsatzbereit."
So the Germans used these three as a DF-base...

Best wishes
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Re: Kriegsmarine Fu.M.B. in the West

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Apr 2017, 08:44

New uddate with the information from Rolf and from the book Radar in Nederland 1940-1945 by JR Verbeek and CNJ Neisingh

Does anyone understand the exact Fu.M.B. types in each Fu.M.B. post from Alain's list

Also what is the exact type number the combined number 21 or 27 or the seperate numbers 4.5.11

Fu.M.B. Kriegsmarine

Fu.M.B. Wennigstedt/Sylt – Fu.M.B. 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. St. Peter Ording – Fu.M.B. 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Heligoland – Fu.M.B. 4,5,11 (each twice!)
Fu.M.B. Langeoog – Fu.M.B. 4,5
Fu.M.B. Borkum – Fu.M.B. 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Schiermonikoog – Fu.M.B. 4,5,11 planned 1 april 1945 ( 21 and 27 )
Fu.M.B. Terschelling – Fu.M.B. 4,5,11 planned 1 april 1945 ( 21 and 27 )
Fu.M.B. Texel Nord – Fu.M.B. 4,5,11 planned 1 april 1945 ( 21 and 27 )
Fu.M.B. Camperduin Fu.M.B. 21 planned 1 april 1945 ( 27 )
Fu.M.B. Velzen Fu.M.B. 21 01-04-1945 planned 1 april 1945 ( 27 )
Fu.M.B. Katwijk Fu.M.B. 21 from 01-04-1945
Fu.M.B. Scheveningen – Fu.M.B. 11,15 under construction 1 april 1945 ( 21 and 27 )
Fu.M.B. Hoek van Holland – Fu.M.B. 4,5,21
Fu.M.B. Goeree - FuMB 11
Fu.M.B. Schouwen - FuMB 4,5
Fu.M.B. Knocke ( Lachs ) J-zug z.b. V. Fu.M.B. 21/27
Fu.M.B. Coxyde ( Hering )
Fu.M.B. Gravelines
Fu.M.B. Blanc Nez ( Zander )
Fu.M.B. Mont Lambert
Fu.M.B. Cap Alprech
Fu.M.B. Camiers
Fu.M.B. Ault in Bau 05-1944
Fu.M.B. Berneval
Fu.M.B. St. Valery ( Walross )
Fu.M.B. Etretat ( Seehund ) 3 x Korfu
Fu.M.B. Cap de la Heve
Fu.M.B. Lonques ( Lanquste ) Fu.M.B. 21
Fu.M.B. St Pierre Eglise ( Forelle )
Fu.M.B. Jobourg (Haifisch ) Fu.M.B. 21
Fu.M.B. Guernsey
Fu.M.B. Paimpol
Fu.M.B. Perros
Fu.M.B. Roscoff
Fu.M.B. Brignogan
Fu.M.B. Menez Hom ( Wolga )
Fu.M.B. Ploumogern ( Donau )
Fu.M.B. Pont Aven
Fu.M.B. Pouzauges ( Elbe )
Fu.M.B. Soulac
Fu.M.B. La Rhune
Fu.M.B. Port Vendres
Fu.M.B. Sete Fu.M.B. 21/27
Fu.M.B. Pomerque
Fu.M.B. St Raphaël
Fu.M.B. Monaco
Fu.M.B. Lividonia Fu.M.B. 21/27 *
Fu.M.B. Falcone Fu.M.B. 21/27 *
Fu.M.B. S. Vincenzo Fu.M.B. 21/27 *

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Re: Kriegsmarine Fu.M.B. in the West

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Post by SES » 05 Apr 2017, 09:08

For types of FuMB equipment please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/kriegsmarine_signal ... ligenc.htm
bottom of the page :-)
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Re: Kriegsmarine Fu.M.B. in the West

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Apr 2017, 09:24

Thanks SES

But as you know the 21 and 27 were a combination of seperate Fu.M.B. , what is the correct the combination number or the seperate numbers ?

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Post by nordfriese » 05 Apr 2017, 12:11

Hi Jos!

For your list, here are the "nicknames" of the German posts:

Fu.M.B. Wennigstedt/Sylt (Wicke) - Fu.M.B. 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. St. Peter Ording (Palme) – Fu.M.B. 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Heligoland (Heidekraut and Hortensie) - Fu.M.B. 4,5,11 (each twice!)
Fu.M.B. Langeoog (Liane) – Fu.M.B. 4,5
Fu.M.B. Borkum (Brombeere) – Fu.M.B. 4,5,11

I found them on the map of SES-page:
http://www.gyges.dk/kriegsmarine_signal ... ligenc.htm

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Post by SES » 05 Apr 2017, 13:30

jopaerya wrote:Thanks SES

But as you know the 21 and 27 were a combination of seperate Fu.M.B. , what is the correct the combination number or the seperate numbers ?

Regards Jos
Ho Jos
It is my understanding, that the combination number is the correct designation.
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Re: Kriegsmarine Fu.M.B. in the West

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Post by der bunkermann » 05 Apr 2017, 15:29

Hi,
Is it known what was FuMB 15?

Off course I'm verder curious about the ons under construction in Scheveningen.
On a high Dune naar the mammut (anton) we found a square foundation of about 2X2 meter.

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Apr 2017, 15:39

Thanks SES

From the one and only Fritz Trenkle ( Die deutschen Funkstörverfahren bis 1945 )

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Re: Kriegsmarine Fu.M.B. in the West

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Post by Bertill622 » 05 Apr 2017, 22:14

Jos, that is a nice drawing! I have been looking for that book from Trenkle a long time.
Still not founded yet, but perhaps someone could point me in the right direction?
Thanks to everyone else for participating on this topic. If I can contribute on this topic, I will do.

Best regards,
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Re: Kriegsmarine Fu.M.B. in the West

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Post by nordfriese » 06 Apr 2017, 02:08

Hi!

@Chazette
The "Wotan"-names confused me a little bit, because I read about them before
in connection with FuMB. In a booklet about FuMB, I read this:
"FuMB-Schule Le Touquet
Lehrstätte Donau / Wolga"
Now this means to me, the FuMB-school for theory was at Le Touquet and the
posts for practice were at the posts Donau (Ploumoguer) and Wolga (Menez Hom).

der bunkermann wrote:Is it known what was FuMB 15?
FuMB 4 "Samos" - 3,3-0,6 m = 90-470 MHz
FuMB 5 "Fanö" - 0,75-0,2 m = 400-800 MHz (by harmonic conversion also 800-1600 MHz)
FuMB 11 "Korfu 812" - 8-12 cm = 2500-3750 MHz
FuMB 12 "Korfu 1218" - 12-18 cm = 1666-2500 MHz
FuMB 13 "Korfu 68" - 6-8 cm = 3750-5000 MHz
FuMB 14 "Korfu 46" - 4-6 cm = 5000-7500 MHz
FuMB 15 "Korfu 274" - 2,7-4 cm = 7500-11100 MHz
FuMB 17 "Korfu 1720" - 1,7-2,6 cm = 11500-17700 MHz

Source: "Die deutschen Funkstörverfahren bis 1945" by Fritz Trenkle

As you can see, the numbers behind the "Korfu" means the wavelength the Korfu-receiver
was able to receive.

Best wishes
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Post by jopaerya » 06 Apr 2017, 08:32

Hello Rolf

I agree with Alain the Donau and Wolga were both Fu.M.B. stations , found several data in the KTB of SeeKo Bretagne .

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Post by jopaerya » 06 Apr 2017, 08:34

Hi Tim

I don't know if this fits the Fu.M.B. 15 , but here a drawing of a Korfu Peiler from Trenkle .

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Post by jopaerya » 06 Apr 2017, 08:38

Fu.M.B. Kriegsmarine

Fu.M.B. Wennigstedt/Sylt ( Wicke ) Fu.M.B. 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. St. Peter Ording ( Palme ) Fu.M.B. 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Heligoland ( Heidekraut und Hortensia ) Fu.M.B. 4,5,11 (each twice!)
Fu.M.B. Langeoog ( Liane ) Fu.M.B. 4,5
Fu.M.B. Borkum ( Brombeere ) Fu.M.B. 4,5,11
Fu.M.B. Schiermonikoog ( Schakal ) Fu.M.B. 4,5,11 planned 1 april 1945 ( 21 and 27 )
Fu.M.B. Terschelling ( ? ) Fu.M.B. 4,5,11 planned 1 april 1945 ( 21 and 27 )
Fu.M.B. Texel Nord ( Tapir ) Fu.M.B. 4,5,11 planned 1 april 1945 ( 21 and 27 )
Fu.M.B. Kamperduin ( Katze ) Fu.M.B. 21 planned 1 april 1945 ( 27 )
Fu.M.B. IJmuiden ( Igel ) Fu.M.B. 21 01-04-1945 planned 1 april 1945 ( 27 )
Fu.M.B. Katwijk ( Keiler ) Fu.M.B. 21 01-04-1945
Fu.M.B. Scheveningen ( Schildkröte ) Fu.M.B. 11,15 under construction 1 april 1945 ( 21 and 27 )
Fu.M.B. Hoek van Holland ( Häse ) Fu.M.B. 4,5,21
Fu.M.B. Goeree – Fu.M.B. 11
Fu.M.B. Schouwen – Fu.M.B. 4,5
Fu.M.B. Knocke ( Lachs ) J-zug z.b. V. Fu.M.B. 21/27
Fu.M.B. Coxyde ( Hering )
Fu.M.B. Gravelines
Fu.M.B. Blanc Nez ( Zander )
Fu.M.B. Mont Lambert
Fu.M.B. Cap Alprech
Fu.M.B. Camiers
Fu.M.B. Ault in Bau 05-1944
Fu.M.B. Berneval
Fu.M.B. St. Valery ( Walross )
Fu.M.B. Etretat ( Seehund ) 3 x Korfu
Fu.M.B. Cap de la Heve
Fu.M.B. Lonques ( Lanquste ) Fu.M.B. 21
Fu.M.B. St Pierre Eglise ( Forelle )
Fu.M.B. Jobourg (Haifisch ) Fu.M.B. 21
Fu.M.B. Guernsey
Fu.M.B. Paimpol
Fu.M.B. Perros
Fu.M.B. Roscoff
Fu.M.B. Brignogan
Fu.M.B. Menez Hom ( Wolga )
Fu.M.B. Ploumogern ( Donau )
Fu.M.B. Pont Aven
Fu.M.B. Pouzauges ( Elbe )
Fu.M.B. La Rochelle 1945
Fu.M.B. Soulac
Fu.M.B. La Rhune
Fu.M.B. Port Vendres
Fu.M.B. Sete Fu.M.B. 21/27
Fu.M.B. Pomerque
Fu.M.B. St Raphaël
Fu.M.B. Monaco
Fu.M.B. Cap Noli
Fu.M.B. Nervi
Fu.M.B. Lividonia Fu.M.B. 21/27 *
Fu.M.B. Falcone Fu.M.B. 21/27 *
Fu.M.B. S. Vincenzo Fu.M.B. 21/27 *
Fu.M.B. Punta Maestre
Fu.M.B. Lido
Fu.M.B. Caorle
Fu.M.B. Dignano

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Re: Kriegsmarine Fu.M.B. in the West

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Post by kstdk » 06 Apr 2017, 13:48

Hello
Bertill622 wrote:Jos, that is a nice drawing! I have been looking for that book from Trenkle a long time.
Still not founded yet, but perhaps someone could point me in the right direction?
Thanks to everyone else for participating on this topic. If I can contribute on this topic, I will do.
Best regards,Bertill.
Have you checked here:

http://www.fortress-books.com/en/catalo ... ng=Trenkle

Regards
Kurt
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