Stp. Paradies ( Boulogne )

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Stp. Paradies ( Boulogne )

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Post by jopaerya » 11 Jun 2017, 18:15

Beside the Chateau Souverain Moulin a bunker was build during W.W. II , looks that
this bunker had a ringstand on the right. Who has any arial picture's of this site with
this bunker on it , to get a better view of the shape of this bunker??

Photo = Ben Muller from his book Festung Boulogne

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Post by AvB » 12 Jun 2017, 10:13

I'd love to know how this one looked like on the inside. An Tobruk accessible from the inside we know from a M 152. But this must be some local SK.


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Post by jopaerya » 12 Jun 2017, 12:28

A few V serie bunker have also a inside accessible Tobruk

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Post by dirk Peeters » 12 Jun 2017, 13:29

Cant it be that we look at the side of th bunker? And that it has a normal tobruk? And that hole at the rear of the tobruk soe kind of emergency exit ?
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Post by Remco de Goede » 13 Jun 2017, 11:38

Is it demolished? Looks like there is "something at the right from the tenniscourt under the trees?
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Post by AvB » 13 Jun 2017, 12:29

It is partly demolished, and the underground tunnel from the castle is filled with rubble. There is one small bunker left, and a FA construction.

Which V-types have an internal Tobruk Jos?

Here's a look from the castle to the bunker. You can see the difference in roof thickness.
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Post by jopaerya » 13 Jun 2017, 13:17

For example the V 149 , V 174 and V ???
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Post by AW » 13 Jun 2017, 15:36

Dirk could be right and its the sideview...
and on the back maybe the entrance to the tunnel

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Post by AvB » 13 Jun 2017, 16:30

Maybe just a simple 622?

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Post by AW » 13 Jun 2017, 17:11

possible...
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Post by AW » 13 Jun 2017, 19:46

AvB wrote: There is one small bunker left, and a FA construction.
Arthur,
can you tell me more about the small bunker and FA construction?
is there a KSS across the road?

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Post by dirk Peeters » 13 Jun 2017, 21:47

Yes there is a kss around the corner
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Post by AvB » 14 Jun 2017, 10:10

I would highly recommend the book "Châteaux en guerre Pas-de-Calais 1939-1945" by Hugues Chevalier.

It shows this map including plans of the two remaining bunkers. Measurements were made together with Yannick Delafosse.

There's also a maintenance bridge for cars in the garden.
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Post by AvB » 14 Jun 2017, 10:15

Photos of the other constructions.
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Post by dirk Peeters » 14 Jun 2017, 10:18

Thanks Arthur
I only measured the kss there
Gonna look for that book
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