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@ Klaus-Dieter , I think it's the opening on the right side of the gun-bunker on the photo's of Alain and not the gun bunker ??
@ The 7.5 cm F.K. 231 (f) could fit inside the gunbunker in the rock but I not so sure if the 7.5 cm 16 (n.A.) would fit with the gunshield.
@ On the IGN photo of the bunker on top of the hill beside the bunker with the "Kleinstklocke"
@ The 7.5 cm F.K. 231 (f) could fit inside the gunbunker in the rock but I not so sure if the 7.5 cm 16 (n.A.) would fit with the gunshield.
@ On the IGN photo of the bunker on top of the hill beside the bunker with the "Kleinstklocke"
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Here some from the entrance of this tunnel behind the castle:
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Tom
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Tom
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I'm not 100% shure, but i think those pictures are taken inside the Gun (scharte) room:
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Some impressions from inside the huge tunnel of Die 06:
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The SK 4,7cm Festungspak (t) -bunker connected to this tunnel:
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Tom
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Tom
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Hello,
I am still realy wonder about the big wall...
coult it be a entrance to the HGS?
greetz
Alex
I am still realy wonder about the big wall...
coult it be a entrance to the HGS?
greetz
Alex
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Hello,
nice photos of Tom!
From the German letter of Jos, I made a schematic representation of the conditions of "Die 06", I have adopted the names from the letter.
I find the "Geschütz-Kasematte 3" particularly interesting.
To the Pak I found 3 interesting links:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... Model_1936
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... Model_1938
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... B3n_vz._36
The used Skoda-Pak ("Beutewaffe") has got the German name "4,7 cm PaK 36 (t)" (t for Czech).
In addition a link:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_mm_kanon_P.U.V.vz.36
The Pak was in a Regelbau bunker D 602:
http://www.bunkerinfo.nl/2010/01/regelb ... m-610.html
Interesting is the access from below.
Many pictures can be found at Bunkerarcheodieppe.
Newspaper clipping:
http://www.bunkarcheodieppe.com/crbst_178.html
"Pak/Festungskanone":
http://www.bunkarcheodieppe.com/crbst_6.html
All 3 objects:
http://www.bunkarcheodieppe.com/crbst_21.html
Nr.1 Regimentsgefechtsstand Bilder: 01511-01516
Nr. 2 Geschützkasematte Bilder:01504, 01508-01510
Nr. 3 Festungs-Pak mit D 602 Bilder:01505-01507
Here are 3 pictures from Google Earth:
Regards
Klaus-Dieter
Hello Alex, I think so too
nice photos of Tom!
From the German letter of Jos, I made a schematic representation of the conditions of "Die 06", I have adopted the names from the letter.
I find the "Geschütz-Kasematte 3" particularly interesting.
To the Pak I found 3 interesting links:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... Model_1936
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... Model_1938
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... B3n_vz._36
The used Skoda-Pak ("Beutewaffe") has got the German name "4,7 cm PaK 36 (t)" (t for Czech).
In addition a link:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_mm_kanon_P.U.V.vz.36
The Pak was in a Regelbau bunker D 602:
http://www.bunkerinfo.nl/2010/01/regelb ... m-610.html
Interesting is the access from below.
Many pictures can be found at Bunkerarcheodieppe.
Newspaper clipping:
http://www.bunkarcheodieppe.com/crbst_178.html
"Pak/Festungskanone":
http://www.bunkarcheodieppe.com/crbst_6.html
All 3 objects:
http://www.bunkarcheodieppe.com/crbst_21.html
Nr.1 Regimentsgefechtsstand Bilder: 01511-01516
Nr. 2 Geschützkasematte Bilder:01504, 01508-01510
Nr. 3 Festungs-Pak mit D 602 Bilder:01505-01507
Here are 3 pictures from Google Earth:
Regards
Klaus-Dieter
Hello Alex, I think so too
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Hello Klaus-Dieter,
for me No.2 is Bauwerk D 602... and the Reg.Gef.Std its the 608.
greetz
Alex
for me No.2 is Bauwerk D 602... and the Reg.Gef.Std its the 608.
greetz
Alex
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Hello Alex,
I have taken the terms from the German document:
The description "Hohlgang" leads down to ... D 602" is clear.
From the photos it is clear to me that the casemate could be erected in open excavation.
At 1 "Regimentsgefechtsstand" ... I'm not sure. According to "Relikte Atlantikwall"
http://www.relikte.info
is a "Vf Beobachtung":
The Reg.Gef.Std 608 you mentioned is, according to Alain Chazette's book
"Mythe ou réalité" der Gef.Std der II./Gren.Regt.935.
608 and "Vf Beobachtung" were both connected to a "Hohlgangsystem".
The following picture comes from book "Mythe ou réalité":
It shows the Peilstand SK of the II./HKAR 1252 and the Leitstand 636 of the 4./HKAR 1252.
These bunkers are located about 350m west of the mentioned "Vf Beobachtung".
Maybe Alain can write something about that?
Regards
Klaus-Dieter
I have taken the terms from the German document:
The description "Hohlgang" leads down to ... D 602" is clear.
From the photos it is clear to me that the casemate could be erected in open excavation.
At 1 "Regimentsgefechtsstand" ... I'm not sure. According to "Relikte Atlantikwall"
http://www.relikte.info
is a "Vf Beobachtung":
The Reg.Gef.Std 608 you mentioned is, according to Alain Chazette's book
"Mythe ou réalité" der Gef.Std der II./Gren.Regt.935.
608 and "Vf Beobachtung" were both connected to a "Hohlgangsystem".
The following picture comes from book "Mythe ou réalité":
It shows the Peilstand SK of the II./HKAR 1252 and the Leitstand 636 of the 4./HKAR 1252.
These bunkers are located about 350m west of the mentioned "Vf Beobachtung".
Maybe Alain can write something about that?
Regards
Klaus-Dieter
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Guten Abend,
for me this is the 7,5cm Bunker at the old "Planum" from the Steinbruch...
And the Rg.Gef.Stand mentioned in the german doc is for me the 608 who is connected with the HGS.
btw. are the any infos about 2cm Flak arround
and can anybody confirm a 668?
greetz
Alex
for me this is the 7,5cm Bunker at the old "Planum" from the Steinbruch...
And the Rg.Gef.Stand mentioned in the german doc is for me the 608 who is connected with the HGS.
btw. are the any infos about 2cm Flak arround
and can anybody confirm a 668?
greetz
Alex
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Drawing is from Jacky Laurent far as I can see no connection to the bunker on the cliff.
17 = bunker with the Kleinstglocke
18 = 7.5 cm Kasemat
25 = entrance
24 = 506 S.K.
the halfround dotted line is the opening you can see on the photo's of Alain
On 06-08-1943 there were 24 officers - 49 NCO - 199 soldiers in Die-06
3 x 7.5 cm
1 x 60 cm Scheinwerfer
1 x m. Pak
1 x l. Pak
5 x m. Granatwerfer
17 x M.G.
17 = bunker with the Kleinstglocke
18 = 7.5 cm Kasemat
25 = entrance
24 = 506 S.K.
the halfround dotted line is the opening you can see on the photo's of Alain
On 06-08-1943 there were 24 officers - 49 NCO - 199 soldiers in Die-06
3 x 7.5 cm
1 x 60 cm Scheinwerfer
1 x m. Pak
1 x l. Pak
5 x m. Granatwerfer
17 x M.G.
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Have a look at "Fortifications & Patrimoine" n°6 (avril 1998).... Regardsjopaerya wrote:Drawing is from Jacky Laurent far as I can see no connection to the bunker on the cliff.
17 = bunker with the Kleinstglocke
18 = 7.5 cm Kasemat
25 = entrance
24 = 631 S.K.
the halfround dotted line is the opening you can see on the photo's of Alain
On 06-08-1943 there were 24 officers - 49 NCO - 199 soldiers in Die-06
3 x 7.5 cm
1 x 60 cm Scheinwerfer
1 x m. Pak
1 x l. Pak
5 x m. Granatwerfer
17 x M.G.
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Hello,
Many thanks to Jos and JLM, the pdf by Jacky Laurent is great.
The two casemates are where I suspected them, the Vf observation has no connection to the tunnel system.
The classification of the PC H609 II./Gren.Regt.935 is registered.
This looks like my revised schema:
Regards
Klaus-Dieter
Many thanks to Jos and JLM, the pdf by Jacky Laurent is great.
The two casemates are where I suspected them, the Vf observation has no connection to the tunnel system.
The classification of the PC H609 II./Gren.Regt.935 is registered.
This looks like my revised schema:
Regards
Klaus-Dieter
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hello all
just for your info,is no Vf beobachtung,but ST beobachtung ep 2 meter, HES 1.2 and wiht the door 434P01.
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just for your info,is no Vf beobachtung,but ST beobachtung ep 2 meter, HES 1.2 and wiht the door 434P01.
Me belfra-team
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merci Jos,JLM & Etienne,
do you know the "Einheit" for the ST´Beo. Stand?
greetz
Alex
do you know the "Einheit" for the ST´Beo. Stand?
greetz
Alex