Reichswehr PAK
-
- Member
- Posts: 224
- Joined: 25 Oct 2016, 19:18
- Location: Saxony
Reichswehr PAK
Can anyone give me more details about those guns? Predecessors of the 3,7 PAK 36, proto typs or dummy guns?
- Attachments
-
- 3.jpg (22.82 KiB) Viewed 1498 times
-
- 2.jpg (20.29 KiB) Viewed 1498 times
-
- 1.jpg (22.87 KiB) Viewed 1498 times
-
- Member
- Posts: 1403
- Joined: 26 May 2007, 16:22
- Location: USA
Re: Reichswehr PAK
Dummy training guns.
-
- Member
- Posts: 224
- Joined: 25 Oct 2016, 19:18
- Location: Saxony
Re: Reichswehr PAK
This is what I first thought as well. But at Wikipedia is written, that the first (real) PAKs had been introduced already in 1928 and at the end of 1932, 264 guns had been in stock. Furthermore, these guns look very "real" on photos.......
Re: Reichswehr PAK
Hi luckystrike,
I can confirm Roland. On Your pics are dummy guns, so called "Holzgeschütze" (wood guns). On the first pic a gun with hors-drawn wheels. On pic two and three Holzgeschütze with wheels for motorised-drawn. Because 17th September 1934 the chief of the army command ordered the conversion of all produced AT guns from horse-drawn to motorised. So the pics two and three must be older than pic one.
First a pic with the breach of such a Holzgeschütz. And then a pic of a prototype of the 3,7cm-Tankabwehrkanone" from January 1928.
Source of the information and of the second pic: "Die deutsche Panzerjägertruppe 1935 - 1945" by Wolfgang Fleischer and Richard Eiermann.
Regards
Bert
I can confirm Roland. On Your pics are dummy guns, so called "Holzgeschütze" (wood guns). On the first pic a gun with hors-drawn wheels. On pic two and three Holzgeschütze with wheels for motorised-drawn. Because 17th September 1934 the chief of the army command ordered the conversion of all produced AT guns from horse-drawn to motorised. So the pics two and three must be older than pic one.
First a pic with the breach of such a Holzgeschütz. And then a pic of a prototype of the 3,7cm-Tankabwehrkanone" from January 1928.
Source of the information and of the second pic: "Die deutsche Panzerjägertruppe 1935 - 1945" by Wolfgang Fleischer and Richard Eiermann.
Regards
Bert
- Attachments
-
- Holzgeschütz.png (278.86 KiB) Viewed 1009 times
-
- 3,7cm TAK Proto.png (168.55 KiB) Viewed 1009 times
-
- Member
- Posts: 224
- Joined: 25 Oct 2016, 19:18
- Location: Saxony
Re: Reichswehr PAK
Thanks for your answer. I read yesterday an article in a German military newspaper (Alte Kameraden) from the mid 1980´s. An interesting journal with lots of first hand accounts. There was a short article about the 3,7 cm PAK. It was not that clear but it seemed to me, that the author wrote that the term "Holzgeschütz" (the author used the same German word, it means wooden guns) was a deception (PAKs were forbidden for the Reichwehr) and the guns were in fact real. This had led to lots of confusion after the war.
You are surely right about the time frame. The first photo is from a 8. (preuß.) Reiter-Regiment photoalbum and the other from a Kraftfahr-album.
You are surely right about the time frame. The first photo is from a 8. (preuß.) Reiter-Regiment photoalbum and the other from a Kraftfahr-album.