Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

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Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 10:59

can anyone provide pictures of the 671 there
i ll search interior pictures of these 671
we were several times there but it is private property and we could not visit it
Thanks
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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 11:09

00 671 plan Rochefort.JPG
i have recieved some interior pictures but if i study these then that would sugest that this plan (Rochefort) is completely wrong
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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by jopaerya » 25 Nov 2019 11:26

Found some gun information viewtopic.php?f=70&t=118616

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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 11:38

thanks jos
strange that fake plan
look at the entrance door and then the size of the of the gunroom

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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 11:50

when i make my pictures big (from 2008) and then i can notice the rear entrance and the ammo door opening are in the same line

i ll hope to make a drawing this affternoon

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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by jopaerya » 25 Nov 2019 12:01

Hello Dirk

The drawing is from Gi 19 this has other guns the Gi 14 .

Regards Jos

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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 13:41

Jos Gi 30 and Gi 19 are the same 671 with the niches

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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 13:53

00.jpg
it s the 671d in Gi 14 who is strange here
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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 13:56

00.jpg
here is a part of the Gi 19and Gi 30 671
nothing to do with 671 Gi 14
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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 14:28

the emplacement for the gun in these 671 in Gi 14 here is square , not round as usual

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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 15:51

the ammo rooms are enlarged in Gi 14
and beside the entrance door on each side is a extra niche like Gi 30
so the 671d version has bigger ammo rooms at each side
so the plan from SHM is as usual extremely wrong

sadly these plans are used in some books without any checking

but please i ll need some pictures from the gunroom for the last details
so who can help me

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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 25 Nov 2019 16:08

shm 95-6 gi14 frosch rep7 15 detail.jpg
here we see very good the square opening for the gun in the floor
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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by Lars Bertelsen » 25 Nov 2019 23:04

Hello Dirk
Thanks for the drawings.
The guns in Gi 14, Gi 19 and Gi 30 are pretty different, and so are the bunkers:

Gi 14: 4./MAA 284
4x10,5cm SK C/32 in MPL
4x671d [Ammo room length 2,40 m (?) instead of standard 1,70 m]

Gi 19: 2./HKAA 1282
6x11,4cm K365(e) in field carriage (box trail)
6x671SK [much bigger than the standard 671. Big niche at the right side of the combat room for the traversing mechanism and gunner’s seat.]

Gi 30: 3./HKAA 1282, 4x10,5cm K331(f) in Sockellafette IV
4x10,5cm K331(f)
4x671 [standard].

I thought that the gun bunkers in Gi 19 were not accessible. Did you make your measurements in Post#9 at that site?

Greetings Lars

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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 26 Nov 2019 09:20

no Lars these drawings are made in Gi30
which you can see are no ordinary 671
what about Gi 19
we ll have interior pictures of them and no big niche for the seat ..... (also these pictures i shall put afterwards here on this topic after the discussions end (look at it like a pokergame ... you always hide some cards for the end)

Gi 14 the plan is finished but i like to wait for some more pictures which i m certain some must have
so afterwards no discussions

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Re: Gi 14 Pointe de L'Auture

Post by dirk Peeters » 26 Nov 2019 09:27

info For Gi 14 the standard lenght of 1m70 stays the same
it is the width that is changed

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