Churchill turret in Le Havre

[jopaerya]

This is a well-known photo, but I am tying to find the exact location in the Landfront ?

Regards Jos

[JKernwerk]

Where is the picture Jos?
But it could be Wn74.
JK

[jopaerya]

This one

[v60pih]

Found this:

Source: Tank Turret Fortifications by Neil Short

[S_haule]

Hi Jos,

The Ringstand with this turret is situated on the south west of this strongpoint.

Regards from Normandy

Sébastien

[Jihem]

I took this picture at Epresmenil. The black & white ringstand doesn't seem to be this one, which have no concrete splinters on the roof above the door :

[jopaerya]

Thank you all Guys

A few remarks , the tobruk is a Vf 25 and a Churchill turret with a 57 cm gun with a MG
Looks there is a sort of fence on the left side .
I have seen the splinters but this could also be something light on the dark concrete ( optical illusion )
Looks the turret has a number on the side "0??"

[moonraker]

hello jos,

there are two tobruk panzer here. please see.

Me belfra-team

[jopaerya]

Thanks Etienne

Yes,I saw this Tobruk too on your last photo, this looks not a Vf 25 ?? ( IGN )

Regards Jos

[Granatwerfer]

Looking at the picture a bit closer. The barrel looks like it has a plug in the end, or is it a flamethrower turret, or is it just a trick of the light and shadows.

[jopaerya]

Hello Granatwerfer

I think you are right that is something in the end of the barrel, I don't think it's a flame thrower
because in Dieppe they used the early version Oke flamethrower and this was not fitted in the turret .

Regards Jos

[moonraker]

hello jos,
I would go see there. I find a difference in the 1946 picture.

Me belfra-team

[LineDoggie]

Hello Granatwerfer

I think you are right that is something in the end of the barrel, I don't think it's a flame thrower
because in Dieppe they used the early version Oke flamethrower and this was not fitted in the turret .

Regards Jos

No UK Churchills had turret flameguns

the Crocodile flamegun replaced the Hull Besa

Now did the Wehrmacht replace the main gun with one or some smaller cannon as a liner?

[JKernwerk]

I think these are the 2pounder ones of the Mark I, maybe these used the same ammo of the 2Pounder ATgun.
That way they had enough ammo.
JK

[Granatwerfer]

Could the Germans have replaced the main gun with the flamethrower from the Panzer III (FL), Sd.Kfz. 141/3.