German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by herring » 03 Mar 2021, 20:33

I think, that in terms of field fortifications especially interetsting are the bunkiers for FK,PAK and howitzers. They are very rare, thre is some of them in Atlanticv Wall (some of series 600 feldmassig, single examples in Ringstellung Lotzen in Poland), I guess also 2 survived in Leningrad region, between villages Novoselye and Lesopitomnik.

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by herring » 03 Mar 2021, 20:40

Here is a standard design from 1916 -not the same, but similar thinking
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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by herring » 03 Mar 2021, 20:41

OK, got it!

Eugenius wrote:
03 Mar 2021, 20:06
Yes, but the drawing you posted reflects exactly the sample I pictured in Leningrad region at 59.74054, 30.27664. The one you meant is smaller and has only one observation embrasur. Surely the Germans built similar observation posts during WWI as well - I saw quite a number of them mainly in Belarus.

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 03 Mar 2021, 20:42

herring wrote:
03 Mar 2021, 20:33
I guess also 2 survived in Leningrad region, between villages Novoselye and Lesopitomnik.
- only one is known, at 59.80076, 30.05272

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by herring » 03 Mar 2021, 20:51

A bit like this one?
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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by herring » 03 Mar 2021, 20:53

Do you have LIDAR imaging for Russia?

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 03 Mar 2021, 21:03

herring wrote:
03 Mar 2021, 20:51
A bit like this one?
- just a bit :)
herring wrote:
03 Mar 2021, 20:53
Do you have LIDAR imaging for Russia?
- no

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 17 May 2021, 19:40

Wanna buy a piece of original German fortification of WWII?..

This story began last autumn, when one of Russian colleagues copied a post at Avito (Russian analogue of Ebay), in which someone offered this object for sale - at RUR 50 000 (ca. EUR 550). I can't imagine what was behind this offer, but I found this object at 56.36256, 30.67224. Here are some pictures:

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This is quite standard German observation post. The most interesting thing is that the object is reverse-oriented - entrance to north-east, embrasures to south-west. It looks that the Germans had to defence with reverse front at the time when this object was constructed.

There were obvious traces of attempts to crush this object with excavator, but it resisted so far. So please hurry up to buy this object as far as it exists.

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 22 Jul 2021, 12:10

Hi guys, hope you are all vaccinated and stay healthy! Let's move to Novgorod region close to Pskov region, and see what the Whermacht left for us to see there.

There are many German fortification objects right in the city of Novgorod. Here is most likely the shelter at 58.54371, 31.31659:

DSCF1508 Немецкое убежище, 58.54371, 31.31659.JPG
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Half-buried in the ground and overgrown with grass. Entrance is fully buried, no any sight of embrasures. A concrete slab laying on top probably covers Ringstand-style opening.

Another interesting piece of Ringstand-style objects at 58.55966, 31.28288:

DSCF1511 Немецкий ДОТ, 58.55966, 31.28288.JPG
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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 22 Jul 2021, 13:02

This was probably the entrance:

DSCF1516 Предположительно вход.JPG

Ringstand:

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A question: what those square niches were for? I saw many Ringstands, but never met such niches:

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 22 Jul 2021, 13:06

The same niches on another Ringstand:

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Original chimney made of fortified concrete:

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 22 Jul 2021, 13:20

Another pillbox at 58.56189, 31.27606, no entrance or embrasures are visible:

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Note the rails used as roof beams:

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A pillbox with shelter at 58.56216, 31.27698:

DSCF1552 Немецкий ДОТ, 58.56216, 31.27698.JPG

Left to right: shelter window, chimney opening and entrance:

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Embrasure filled with bricks:

DSCF1554 Заложенная амбразура.JPG

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 22 Jul 2021, 13:31

A battle casemate viewed from the entrance:

DSCF1556 Боевой каземат.JPG

MG emplacement. A question: what kind of MG might be used here? The emplacement looks to be too high for MG-34 or MG-42.

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A shelter viewed through the window. The entrance to battle casemate is on the right:

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 22 Jul 2021, 13:33

Another pillbox at 58.55995, 31.27298:

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Entrance:

DSCF1566 Вход.JPG

Window:

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Embrasure:

DSCF1578 Виден вход напротив амбразуры.JPG

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Re: German shelters in Pskov region, Russia - a Regelbau type?

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Post by Eugenius » 22 Jul 2021, 13:41

2-embrasures pillbox with shelter at 58.56385, 31.28881:

DSCF1579 Немецкий ДОТ, 58.56385, 31.28881.JPG
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Entrance side and view from the entrance to the shelter, a passage to battle casemate is visible:

DSCF1593 Вход.JPG
DSCF1594 Вид от входа в убежище, виден проход в боевой каземат.JPG

A window:

DSCF1595 Окно.JPG

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