150 cm and 200 cm Scheinwerfer Marine Flak positions

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150 cm and 200 cm Scheinwerfer Marine Flak positions

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Post by jopaerya » 16 Nov 2020, 09:59

Hello All

I am looking for information and drawings of 150 cm and 200 cm Flakscheinwerfers in Marine flak positions.
were fixed positions for the searchlight , Horchgerät and Leitrichtgerät and seizes of the open emplacements ??
I know the BRV drawings of Hoek van Holland .

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Re: 150 cm and 200 cm Scheinwerfer Marine Flak positions

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Post by RuPo » 17 Nov 2020, 17:10

I'm missing the detailed drawing of this two WN's .. lost in mine archive. The searchlight in the KM Flak batteries, is that also where you looking for?
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Re: 150 cm and 200 cm Scheinwerfer Marine Flak positions

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Post by jopaerya » 19 Nov 2020, 15:55

Thank you very much Ruud

Are there any examples from Norway and France ??

Regards Jos

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Re: 150 cm and 200 cm Scheinwerfer Marine Flak positions

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Post by Jens Andersen » 19 Nov 2020, 18:16

Hi Jos,

In this link you find information on the search light positions around Hanstholm.
http://hanstholmregistreringen.dk/luftv ... ation.html

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Re: 150 cm and 200 cm Scheinwerfer Marine Flak positions

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Post by jopaerya » 19 Nov 2020, 22:34

Thanks for the great link Jens :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: 150 cm and 200 cm Scheinwerfer Marine Flak positions

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Post by stril » 20 Nov 2020, 00:31

Hello
Are there any examples from Norway and France ??
Added a photo showing a typical setup for a leuchtgruppe in Bergen. Having a 150 cm scheinwefer, horchgerät, and leitrichgerät.
The scheinwerfer positions are al aprox 9 m in diameter. The positions for horchgerat are similar to the regelbau flak 292, and the positions for the leitrichgerät are similar or like the regelbau flak 258. In addition there was a barrack, a shelter for the generator and a garage. The last two was in some cases at the same place. There was also one or two mg positions and a often small bunker.

Its interesting whe following Jens Andersens link to read the following:
Kortet viser den taktiske opstilling af 150 cm og 200 cm lyskasterne i 3 'ringe'.
Indre 'ring'/linie udgøres af lyskasterne 1 og 7.
Næste 'ring'/linie udgøres af 2, 10 og 8.
Mellemste ring udgøres af 2, 4, 11 og 8. Såfremt en lyskaster var blevet opstillet på Risbjerge (?), var den indgået heri.
Yderste ring udgøres af 3, 5, 6 og 9.


It was the same in Bergen. The leuchgruppen was organized in 3 rings with the city in the center. The first with leuchtgruppe 1-9, the second from 10-19, and the third from 20 and upwards.
Also to be noted that most leuchtgruppen(and the heavy flak batteries) was multi purpose, could also be used against sea targets.
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Re: 150 cm and 200 cm Scheinwerfer Marine Flak positions

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Post by jopaerya » 20 Nov 2020, 09:51

Thank you very much Stril :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Post by RuPo » 21 Nov 2020, 11:38

"It was the same in Bergen. The leuchgruppen was organized in 3 rings with the city in the center. The first with leuchtgruppe 1-9, the second from 10-19, and the third from 20 and upwards. Also to be noted that most leuchtgruppen(and the heavy flak batteries) was multi purpose, could also be used against sea targets.
regards

Interesting Stril, i took many years before i solved this for IJmuiden area. There are also several rings, some of them are aranged for area defence! Should this common for a position defenced by many heavy flak points? Do you know the was a doctrine ore some document that descript this as a 'rule' .... better in combination with a UgrUko.
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Post by RuPo » 21 Nov 2020, 12:20

Its hard (for me) to confirm the object on the lufo. You see the searchlight position in the Olmen Batterie. Picture situation 44/45. Drawing 5-45.
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Re: 150 cm and 200 cm Scheinwerfer Marine Flak positions

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Post by JKernwerk » 15 Jan 2021, 14:51

I found another combi of a searchlight, Horchgerät and leitrichtgerät at Wn 103 of Stp.Gr. Voorne.
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