Artillerie abbreviations

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Artillerie abbreviations

Post by Nectar » 24 Dec 2022 08:23

Can someone help with these abbreviations all linked to Artillerie batteries? I've found some myself as they are logical or explained in the file itself, but some I cannot figure out. They all come from the same document which is a lists of locations with coordinates.

Wa.-Gesch.
Arb.-Gesch.
W.-St.
Wa.-St.
We.-St.
Sch.-St. (Schein-Stellung)
B.-St. (Beobachtungs-Stelle)
V.B. (Vorgeschovene Beobachter)
Ausw.V.B. (Ausweich Vorgeschovene Beobachter)
Ausw.B.-St. (Ausweich Beobachtungs Stelle)

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by Eax-E » 24 Dec 2022 12:18

Hello,

Some more :
Nectar wrote:
24 Dec 2022 08:23

Wa.-Gesch.
Arb.-Gesch. (Arbeits-Gezchütze)
W.-St. (Wechseln-Stellung)
Wa.-St.
We.-St. Iso W.-St
Sch.-St. (Schein-Stellung)
B.-St. (Beobachtungs-Stelle)
V.B. (Vorgeschovene Beobachter)
Ausw.V.B. (Ausweich Vorgeschovene Beobachter)
Ausw.B.-St. (Ausweich Beobachtungs Stelle)

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by JKernwerk » 24 Dec 2022 14:44

Wa.-St. could be Wachtstellung.
A place were guns are stored before active duty.
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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by Nectar » 24 Dec 2022 18:19

Thanks! What is an Arbeits-Geschütze? I come to this list and found another abbrevation in the document. I don't think W.-St. and Wa.-St. are the same abbrevation.

Wa.-Gesch.
Arb.-Gesch. (Arbeits-Geschütz)
vorg.K.-St. (vorgeschovene ....)
W.-St.
Wa.-St. (Wacht-Stellung)
We.-St. (Wechsel-Stellung)
Sch.-St. (Schein-Stellung)
B.-St. (Beobachtungs-Stelle)
V.B. (Vorgeschovene Beobachter)
Ausw.V.B. (Ausweich Vorgeschovene Beobachter)
Ausw.B.-St. (Ausweich Beobachtungs Stelle)

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by TH » 25 Dec 2022 03:08

Nectar wrote:
24 Dec 2022 18:19
What is an Arbeits-Geschütze?
An Arbeitsgeschütz is a gun positioned a short distance from the main battery site, that can be used for things like ranging shots without exposing the battery. It can also fire together with the rest of the battery, to protect it against enemy sound ranging.

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by Nectar » 25 Dec 2022 10:35

Thanks again!

I found the reference to the Arbeitsgeschütz only for a heavy batterie (6 x 15 cm sFH 18), while the medium batteries (4 x 10,5 cm 18/40) didn't had any Arbeitsgeschütze.

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by Melax » 31 Dec 2022 10:22

I have some more - from a diary of a Abteilungs Kommandeur, so I am not 100% shure they are official but I would think so...

M-Stelle
U-Stelle

(could be that his handwriting had M-Stelle = U-Stelle and I have misread it but I looks like different Stellen)

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by JKernwerk » 31 Dec 2022 13:12

Messstelle and Umwertungsstelle?
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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by Nectar » 07 Jan 2023 19:33

Found a few else

Wa.-Gesch. (Wander-Geschutz)
Arb.-Gesch. (Arbeits-Geschütz)
vorg.K.-St. (vorgeschovene ....)
W.-St. (Wacht-Stellung?)
Wa.-St. (Wander-Stellung)
We.-St. (Wechsel-Stellung)
Sch.-St. (Schein-Stellung)
B.-St. (Beobachtungs-Stelle)
V.B. (Vorgeschovene Beobachter)
Ausw.V.B. (Ausweich Vorgeschovene Beobachter)
Ausw.B.-St. (Ausweich Beobachtungs Stelle)

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by pvv8 » 22 Jan 2023 09:57

Hi

Does anybody know what "FA BI-Stelle" means ?
And the "v" in gemischte Flak-Abteilung 481 (v)

Thx in advance
Patrick

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by JKernwerk » 22 Jan 2023 12:31

FA should be Feldmaßige Ausbau and the BI is the Befehlsstelle of a Flakbatterie.
So a Befehlsstelle in a fieldorder emplacement.
I thought (v) meant verstärkt but I could be wrong, in 1944 many Flak-Abt. in the Netherlands were stationed near the vital retreat bridges, most of these had the (v) in the name.
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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by pvv8 » 22 Jan 2023 12:41

Thx JKernwerk for your swift reply !
My question was in regard of Flakbatterie Cap Roux, not far from Mandelieu-La Napoule and was occupied by gemischte Flak-Abteilung 481 (v) and had some FA bunkers.

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by stril » 22 Jan 2023 18:50

Hello
(v)=(verlegbar), as (o)=(ortsfest)
regards
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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by pvv8 » 22 Jan 2023 19:28

ah ok, more or less simular as in Dutch...
(v) = relocatable
(o) = static
thx Stril !

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Re: Artillerie abbreviations

Post by JKernwerk » 22 Jan 2023 22:16

Thanks Stril!
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